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Info on Marlow, Henley, Thame, Chalfonts

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Spanielmad · 19/08/2017 22:38

Hello, we are thinking of moving into South Buckinghamshire for DH's work. Been looking at the impossible school situation already and earmarked a few areas with good (but oversubscribed) secondary schools.
Before I drive over to visit the area (we are a few hours away) I need to narrow down which towns we might like, as I can't visit them all in a day or two.

We like to be near or on the outskirts of a small town with stuff for my kids (young teen boys) such as a leisure centre, sports clubs, we like hiking in the hills/woods, I'd like a nice town with boutique shops, cafes, art galleries, art clubs etc. Low crime and peaceful would be good too- goes without saying.

Can anyone tell me anything about these towns? What are they like? I already know most of them are pricey- but would like to know more about atmosphere, crime, shops etc....
I have only done online research so far.

Henley,
Shiplake,
Marlow (my fav at the moment but hard to find a house),
Chalfont St Peter,
Chesham,
Thame.

Any thoughts very welcome!! Thank you

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ShaneBitchy · 22/08/2017 18:04

My eldest DD I think would be a bit lost in such a big school. She's not loud, she gets on with tasks she's set, she's just sort of 'there' in class. Like she could be easily forgotten about.
My other DD is the opposite and would probably be fine.
But I don't know if it has that 'personal touch'
The Headmaster of TBS has so far been outstanding and he really seems to treat every child as an individual. Every parent I know who has a child there hasn't a bad thing to say about the school.

MarlowRocks · 22/08/2017 17:53

It might be worth looking at some census information just to get an overview of different areas. HERE is 2011 census info for Henley. It shows there are more than UK average no of elderly people (not surprising) but also that there are an 'average' number of young people. It also shows a much higher than average level of people with degrees (not surprising) and a very low number of people in civil partnerships (I wouldn't have guessed that 🤷🏻‍♀️)

I love a few facts and figures and I remember going through the population stats for various areas when we chose where to live.

I also found the ofsted school reports useful. We didn't even get a chance to visit the school my DCs ended up at before they were enrolled as we were living overseas but found the info in the ofsted report describing the atmosphere and ethos of the school to be accurate.

It always risky paying too much attention to different people's views on different schools as every child has such a unique experience.

Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 17:50

LOL, well that's good to know.

More people seem to like Amersham. I am not keen on the single sex schools but Amersham School seems well liked at Chesham grammar is not far.... whether they have places available...

Not many houses that suit us available there though, but will keep looking!

Why is Amersham so nice?

What do people not like about Chalfonts Community College?

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Ktown · 22/08/2017 17:38

Gx ain't posh.
amersham would be my choice or the countryside around beaconsfield.

Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 17:26

oh, last post referred to Lane End. Sorry didn't see the other posts there!

Wargrave...mm dunno....not keen on religious school (or boys school). I know, I am fussy... ;)

Must check out Wokingham then!
thanks! :)

LOL Ktown! People tell me Gerrards Cross is really posh and I should want to live there! But there seem to be no schools to go to there... and so there's little to do (although Marlow can't be far to drive to??).
Yes, thanks for the tip, have bookmarked some flood maps...
Gerrards Cross and Chalfonts come across (from here sitting behind a computer) as quiet green areas with not much happening. They are served by the Chalfonts Community College which has a good ousted report, but for some reason people are not keen on it in this forum..... I haven't discounted it as I imagine it's easy to get to Marlow or Wycombe for shops, easy to get to Stoke Poges and London.... so as a quiet green base perhaps....? Might have to get a 4x4 though...Grin

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Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 17:14

mmmm thank you for that. some good bits, some bad bits... and not in Borlase-country. But Cressex Com School and GMS in catchment... mmm

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Ktown · 22/08/2017 17:14

There is a knack to the 11+ and there are a lot of small prep schools as primaries that prepares the kids.
I live in the gerrards cross area and really dislike it. It is tedious and suffers from being near London, so there isn't much to do. Plus the 4x4 drivers unable to drive or park well.
Keep in mind Marlow and some areas are close to water and flood periodically.
I am not the person to ask as I had to move there for work and am grumpy about it.

Singap0reSling · 22/08/2017 17:13

Bracknell centre has recently undergone a massive redevelopment, with lots of new / big shops. Schools wise, there's Ranelagh that's supposed to be excellent - but it's a CofE secondary and has quite strict admissions rules I hear.

Wokingham is supposed to be the happiest /best place to live in the country according to articles I've seen in the last few years Hmm Lots of secondary schools and smaller villagey places if you're not in Wokingham proper. The town centre is quite small and not as nice as places like Henley or Marlow IMHO.

Personally if I could choose from your list, I would steer clear of Bucks because you've missed the first round of the 11+. A late sitting would put your yr 6 son in the second round of allocations and I don't know how likely it is to get a place in your preferred grammar school (assuming you have one).

Have you looked at Wargrave? Near a lot if the places you seem to like, The Piggott School is well regarded. Still within Reading Boys catchment if you want to try for a late application / mid year entry.

mumblechum0 · 22/08/2017 17:07

Lots of Lane End kids go to Frieth school, though, depending on how full they are. My son went to Frieth and at least a quarter of his class lived in Lane End at that time.

Prices in Lane End are much lower, as there's a very large and slightly rough estate in the middle of it. It's much bigger than Frieth, has a couple of pubs, and at least 10 shops/businesses. Parts of it are fine, there are some quite nice larger houses on the outskirts.

Ollycat · 22/08/2017 17:05

Lane End quite big - doctors, shops, 2 garages, pub, take always.

Ollycat · 22/08/2017 17:04

Lane End catchment for GMS not Borlase (Frieth cross roads the boundary). There are some lovely bits to Lane End and some less lovely- you wouldn't want the primary. The new houses are near the main road but on the ok side.

Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 16:59

There seems to be new houses and some other stuff for sale in Lane End - which is catchment for GMS and Borlase's ? I know its a tiny hamlet (by the look of it) but a nice hamlet?

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Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 16:44

thanks everyone! I only ever drove through bracknell on the A Road to get to the M4. always busy.

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xyzandabc · 22/08/2017 15:43

I grew up in princes risborough. Unless you are certain of a grammar place, I wouldn't move there. Princes Risborough school is not great. In that area, Thame has a much nicer feel, High Street and better school.

ShaneBitchy · 22/08/2017 15:28

I don't think it's a 'bad' school, it's just not a first choice round my way for some reason. Not one of DD's year 6 classmates is going there this year but then we've got Khalsa and Beechwood now so more choice.

Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 15:21

thanks! What is CEM?

I better speak to the schools.....

Council lady called me today, she couldn’t help much really except to say if we know where we are moving to we can apply my youngest for a secondary school from our current local council. We probably won’t get a place as we live too far, but at least we’d be on the list and can appeal once we moved....

Also realised that my fear of ending up in a really bad school is unfounded as we can request up to 6 (?) schools for both (?) boys and they would work down our list first before offering a random other school. So if I make sure all 6 are decent schools we should be ok - worst case is we move to Marlow and up at a school in Henley or High Wycombe and it would be a long drive. But this way there is little chance we would end up at a bad school I don’t want. Phew.

Not sure this also applies to my Y8 mid-year change as well but I assume so.
Knowing this gives me a little hope....

Towns like Thame don’t have many other schools in the area (so perhaps an appeal would work) but places like Marlow do have others around.

i was also told that Chalfonts Comm College will probably have spaces. You guys say it is not really the perfect town life I was after and the school is not super-duper either, but if it has places and if we find a nice house there....perhaps it is still in the running. depends how ‘bad’ the school is I suppose. I don’t fancy bullies, chavs and no stretching of clever kids and little pastoral care.

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ShaneBitchy · 22/08/2017 15:11

My friend has recently moved to Bracknell, not quite sure exactly where but you don't have to go M4 to get to Stoke Poges. You can go through Ascot and Old Windsor.
You get much more for your money over Bracknell way.

Ollycat · 22/08/2017 14:58

There are some beautiful areas around Princess Risborough but PR Upper went into special measures quite recently.

Harpenden would be quite a drive! I used to work in St Albans and the traffic (M40 / 25) was horrendous and tgst was 14 years ago.

Unfortunately for the OP I think any half decent school in the south east is going to be full so would require over subscription appeals.

Re Bucks 11+ - yes do prep - there are no past papers- Smiths not best place to get books - go to 11+ forum and read about CEM. Your year 8 may have CEM or may have curriculum based depending on the school so speak to schools concerned.

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 22/08/2017 14:45

Has anyone suggested Princes Risborough. It's Between Aylesbury and Wycombe, unspoilt town centre. It has a secondary school and is in catchment for the grammer schools in Aylesbury.

Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 14:34

Anyone know of the Sandhurst, Wokingham, Crowsthorne area? Further out but you get more house for your money... would be an M4 commute I suppose.... Edgbarrow School seems well rated.
Never been to that part of the world either...

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Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 14:32

Thanks for the info on Henry Floyd! Wondering if those grammars (if mixed) are worth moving into the area for? Or would a Lord Williams be just as good? That said, Amersham might be a nicer town than Thame...
And all will be full no doubt... ;)

Which grammar would be the nicest of that lot? Or perhaps which area would be the nicest to live in? SHF area, AGS area or Chesham?

Thank you WhatisMrToddDoing - I had not looked that far out but Google says Harpenden is a 45 mins drive. I wonder how often it really would be just 45 mins though. The M1 and M25 are not known to be quiet. But will certainly look into it, thank you!!

Is Luton very noisy there?

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WhatIsMrToddDoing · 22/08/2017 13:57

It would be a long commute (although M1 - M25 so might not be too bad if go early) but Harpenden in Herts could be an option. Has 3 outstanding schools and any of them would be good if you got into them. Also really lovely town with nice shops, Waitrose & M&S food, prezzo etc. Links to London and Luton airport. Might be a bit far though.

BubblesBuddy · 22/08/2017 09:58

It does change! SHF was the old Technical High School and therefore the less glamourous cousin. It used to fill up with pupils who couldn't get into the High or the Grammar in Aylesbury ie second choice. Although some parents always preferred it. When my DD took the 11 plus, 29
Passed and one went to SHF. Aylesbury Vale also has a much lower percentage of children getting 121 than the Chiltern or Wycombe Districts and therefore had spare places in some grammars until MK children appeared in large numbers. It used to be a similar situation with Chesham Grammar. It was a Technical High School. You just have to take it year by year.

LowlandsUni · 22/08/2017 09:42

SHF was seen as the poorer cousin; it was only founded in the 1950's as opposed to AGS appearing in the 1500's. AGS has a much more traditional feel (rugby, latin). It's horses for courses, some people strongly dislike one or the other. If you look at the allocation profile of Bucks Grammars 2006-2017 www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum/11plus/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=50694 you will see that although SHF had been offering to everyone who qualified that is no longer the case. You will also see that this year AGS offered to people from further away than SHF did.

Spanielmad · 22/08/2017 09:04

Thank you BubblesBuddy. We are not set on grammars, just a good school for clever kids. Both my boys are good learners and in top sets. So a school that caters for that is important to me.
Do you happen to know why Henry Floyd is less popular? Lord Williams seems very good so might be just as good (but no doubt full although I imagine a large school will have more chance of getting spaces).

I will write down the schools you mention and see if they have spaces for my Y8 (and then hopefully my Y6 might get a place via the sibling route although he would be a a very late applicant). The problem is if they don’t get into, let’s say, Amersham School what would be our second choice/where will they end up. I am trying to keep as much control over the school choice as I can. Perhaps Clement Dane?

Thank you Olympicsrock! That is great to know. Lord Williams seems a good and nice school. I will see if they have any spaces for my eldest. I am hoping that it being a large school, places might come up now and then. It would be a bit further for DH to commute but am starting to think we are not going to get much choice! (and I love Oxford!)

The saga continues.... ;) You guys are brill!
Still don’t know where to drive to next weekend - too many places to see!! LOL I suppose I better just start somewhere and make a few weekends out of it.

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