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Info on Marlow, Henley, Thame, Chalfonts

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Spanielmad · 19/08/2017 22:38

Hello, we are thinking of moving into South Buckinghamshire for DH's work. Been looking at the impossible school situation already and earmarked a few areas with good (but oversubscribed) secondary schools.
Before I drive over to visit the area (we are a few hours away) I need to narrow down which towns we might like, as I can't visit them all in a day or two.

We like to be near or on the outskirts of a small town with stuff for my kids (young teen boys) such as a leisure centre, sports clubs, we like hiking in the hills/woods, I'd like a nice town with boutique shops, cafes, art galleries, art clubs etc. Low crime and peaceful would be good too- goes without saying.

Can anyone tell me anything about these towns? What are they like? I already know most of them are pricey- but would like to know more about atmosphere, crime, shops etc....
I have only done online research so far.

Henley,
Shiplake,
Marlow (my fav at the moment but hard to find a house),
Chalfont St Peter,
Chesham,
Thame.

Any thoughts very welcome!! Thank you

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RexManning · 21/05/2018 10:41

Hi Nancy. This is such a massive thread that posters are unlikely to see your post right at the end. I’d suggest starting a new thread Smile

NancySp · 20/05/2018 22:34

Hello lovely mumsnet group! We are planning to relocate in Thame this summer. Are there any areas we should avoid? We are looking into a property close to Roundhead Dr atm. Is this a nice area for a family? Your help is very much appreciated. Many thanks!

TheRockingGazelles · 10/09/2017 06:39

Any luck with ringing the schools for places op?

Spanielmad · 30/08/2017 17:24

Hi Sparks, that is brilliant info, thank you! Sounds like Chalfonts/Gx is still best for commute as my other locations (Marlow, Thame) are even further away!
thanks for the HS2 warning - didn't realise it would go through Chalfonts - I just had written down south of Amersham and north of Missenden, but of course drawing the line towards London would bring it near Chalfonts. Will have to stick to Ch.St.Peter and south of there.
When we are nearer to buying we will see if we can try to do an evening commute to test the waters (well, roads)
Thank you!

Nice to hear something good about the Community College. Will have to go and have a look and gather even more opinions.

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sparks0 · 30/08/2017 16:10

I've lived in Chalfont St Peter for 10 years and just want to say that travelling from Chalfont St Peter to Stoke Poges can take up to 25- 30 mins in rush hour (I used to do this route most days). Traffic in Beaconsfield can be really awful during rush hour too. Travelling from Marlow/ Henley and further out to Stoke Poges could end up being a very long journey for your husband so it might be worth trying these journeys in rush hours. Chalfont common side of the village will be affected by the HS2 so those house prices in Chalfont are reflecting that in their current price. My neighbour's children and people I know whose children are at Chalfont community college got A* and A grades they needed for their uni courses so I don't think it's as bad as some people have made it out to be. Also Seer Green, Penn, Jordan villages might be worth considering. These are lovely areas to live in and property is in high demand, so it won't be easy to buy around here. Gerrards Cross near the train station is great but you probably won't get a decent sized house for less than 1 million. The Duke Wood area is an estate and nothing much there. A lot of people are put off by it due to it being too close to Slough and can hear the traffic from M4. Chalfont St Peter is getting better, a new Marks and Spencer and Costa is opening soon here which is pushing up the prices. There are a few outstanding schools too. Some parts of the area are better than other esp when it comes to schools. The traffic from Amersham to Stoke Poges will be awful esp with the HS2 affecting some roads around that part.

Spanielmad · 30/08/2017 14:14

Yes, was wondering whether it was worth driving over for open evenings considering they are usually jam packed, hot and not that informative after all.... perhaps better to just make an appointment....

those trips sound amazing, yet expensive.
Nice to hear they are all safe contries, sometimes you hear schools organise trips to countries that I wouldn’t consider very safe....

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Ollycat · 30/08/2017 14:08

Spanielmad Space Camp isn't the cheapest trip but they do get a lot from it Smile

Ollycat · 30/08/2017 14:07

Yes Space Camp as in zero gravity etc Shock there are 40+ of them off at Easter all VERY excited!!

Yes trips are many and varied! MFL exchange trips, history trip to Berlin, German to xmas markets, there's some sciency trip to Finland, d of e through to gold (expeditions to Norway), politics to Washington, this years sports tour was Hong Kong and Australia- next years South Africa, ski trips and so on ....

Some children do all the trips, some none and most something in the middle but yes there are many opportunities!

I'm sure the others all offer similar. All schools do have an individual feel and their own identity so it's important to visit them (not at open evening though these are always jan packed and hideous!!)

Spanielmad · 30/08/2017 13:59

ooh good point, the parents would have to pay for the trip to Alabama! ugh, that would be a 4-figure sum....

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BubblesBuddy · 30/08/2017 13:42

They are ALL focussed on results. They are grammar schools! However, I believe they are all supportive and are outstanding schools. Sports may differ from school to school and no doubt you can download a prospectus. Often schools have a lot of details about their sixth forms so you can see how the older children in the school are developed into adults. You really would not be unhappy with any of those schools. Yes, they do run expensive trips so be prepared to dig deep. That is the big difference between a secondary and a grammar in Bucks and why there is a pecking order of secondaries. It is the extra opportunities that the grammars seem to offer.

mumblechum0 · 30/08/2017 13:31

Yes my friend's son went on the Space Camp and had a ball!

Spanielmad · 30/08/2017 13:29

space camp to Alabama - as in space - science, rockets and stuff? wow. Ugh I’d be worried sick, but that sounds really exciting. :)

thanks for that on Borlase. We know all about anxiety so that is good to hear.

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Ollycat · 30/08/2017 11:57

Oh and in year 10 they run a trip to Space Camp in Alabama.

Ollycat · 30/08/2017 11:55

I think they're all good - obv different people have different preferences.

My children are at Borlase so can only really speak for them but their pastoral care is excellent (my youngest is quite anxious and they have been excellent). Borlase is outstanding at sports competing at very high levels in a whole range. A number of students are selected to play at national/ international level - particularly in hockey and rowing but also other sports and a great many play at county or higher - the school is very supportive of them but also inclusive of all abilities. Sciences are very strong - there is a STEM coordinator and a wide range of enrichment opportunities are available- most students do CREST awards and there is a big STEM fair plus loads of other stuff. Languages- French, German Spanish and Mandarin - compulsory to do at least 1 to GCSE. They are focused on results - name be a school which isn't - but supportive rather then pushy. Their results are outstanding and that is the norm. They are a selective school and so there is tgat level of expectation. Dance, drama and music are also outstanding and all offered through to A level. They produce well rounded confident young people who work hard but also have fun.

I'm sure the above could also be said for all other Bucks grammars.

Spanielmad · 30/08/2017 11:20

No, but hope to soon.... kids need to go back to school and there’s time yet. DH is not working there yet. The search area is still very big so will need a bit of time to visit all these areas.

Which of the mixed grammars (Burnham, Borlase, chesham, H Floyd) is known to be the kindest and good on pastoral, sports, science, languages and not too pushy and focussed on results?

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Ollycat · 29/08/2017 19:17

Have you managed to visit the area yet? I would really do that before selecting schools etc as it's important you like the area and there are quite a variety of different places in your search.

Spanielmad · 29/08/2017 18:31

aha, thanks Virginia! I would imagine I can then write 3 schools down, grammar or not (or maybe even 3 uppers and apply for grammars at the same time separately).
thanks!

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Virginiaplain1 · 29/08/2017 17:34

You can list three preferences for in year admissions in the same way as you do with normal round admissions. Note though that some of the schools you're looking at (e.g. LWS and other academy schools) deal with their own year admissions themselves, so you can either apply to them direct, or you can apply via the Local Authority, who will pass on your application to the school.

Spanielmad · 29/08/2017 13:08

thanks Bubbles. will call them next week. Sent another email to the council and waiting for reply...

Also wondering if for mid year applications, can we actually list a preference? If we get refused in one school, can be apply for another, can they go down a list of our preferred schools or do they just straight away allocate you for the nearest one with spaces?

I've seen the mid-year application form for Oxfordshire schools and you can actually list 3 schools. But for Bucks I don't know.

Its mad as you can only apply 6 weeks before your move and if there is refusals/appeals/2nd, 3rd preferred options we probably could not tell the kids where they'd go to school until after the move. madness.

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BubblesBuddy · 29/08/2017 12:42

I do think the schools will know earlier because they should have their roll for the first day but I also know appeals can go on very late. Certainly Lord Williams at Thame is a good school and I would ring them becasue you would not want to change from that school if a place is available.

Generally, as far as I understand it, if a child has the required score they will be offered a grammar school place if there is one. My local girls' grammar frequestly had 33/34 in a year group due to appeals so schools can be flexible. Not all are so popular and there should be a late place somewhere but with increasing numbers of pupils coming from outside Bucks, the whole landscape has changed. In my village, three late applicants got into Chesham Grammar 10-15 years ago, but times have changed. SHF in Aylesbury was also in that category and John Hampden in High Wycombe. There was always a pecking order of grammars! You may get lucky!

Spanielmad · 29/08/2017 12:28

thanks Bubbles! Yes, that is just it - are we going to be prepared to accept what we are given or not. I am not sure. It depends on what we are given. I don't mind driving/distance but I do mind making my kids unhappy/anxious/not doing as well as they could. I would rather have a weekend marriage than that. But it is hard to tell.
Am going to call schools to find out whether they envisage a Y8 place coming up this coming year (in a normal world we don't envisage moving until the new year) and see what answers I get. If all say 'probably not' and 'it will be difficult' we might not move at all. Not sure. Must visit places like Chalfonts etc to see how I like it. Have hopes that Sir William might have spaces as it is so big.
Thank you again - its all been revelatory!

If my kids pass a grammar school test, but the 'local' grammar is full and won't offer a place, what happens then? It seems mid-year and late applications are done by the schools themselves so does that mean we would have to apply to a different grammar ourselves?

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BubblesBuddy · 29/08/2017 12:01

It is virtually the same anywhere you look at in this country - parents like good schools and shy away from the less good. Bucks is no different to anywhere else. It woud be fine if every school was good, but many of the secondary moderns have always fluctuated in terms of their quality and some have a long history of RI or worse and people tend to avoid them, if they can.

I think the Head at Cressex is doing a good job so if you cannot get in anywhere else, it is not the end of the world. There are also 6th form options when the time comes and grammar schools do recruit at that point. Chalfonts is not the end of the world either, and, although some people find it big, they often do not cope well with the difference between a small cuddly primary and a large secondary. There is also Holmer Green School which you could consider.

I suspect the reason Bucks do not publish their vacancy lists until 11 September is due to last minute and never-ending appeals. There are appeals against the 11 plus results and also against school allocations here and there are hundreds of them.

I would see what the options are for Y8 vacancies, be prepared to travel and get your younger child into Y6 and register as a late registration for the 11 plus. Again, be prepared to accept what you are given if he is successful. You will need to flexible on primary schools too.

You cannot, I believe, register a preference for schools not in Bucks, on your preference list from Bucks CC. You will have to see what the admissions arrangements are for all the schools outside Bucks and there may not be central admissions system in those Local authorities.

Spanielmad · 29/08/2017 09:27

Thank you jempuddle! We are mulling it over, difficult one....

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jempuddleduck · 28/08/2017 22:19

I should think your son in year 8 would catch up just fine at that stage but tricky for the younger one if he is likely to be so thrown by moves. I think moving him sooner and trying to get a late 11+ test seems best. We are seeing if our oldest can move up with DH first so that she can start her GCSE courses there rather than move mid course which is clearly a bad idea.

Spanielmad · 28/08/2017 13:05

Mmmm yes I have one particularly anxious child (youngest) who is struggling with a lot of things (except school wok, he's extremely bright). Having to move him into another primary, having to go on a residential, moving to secondary (hopefully the one we want) will be be a huge issue.
I hate the thought of them having to go to a less preferred school for a period of time and then move schools again. I just can't see how it would not make my youngest have a backlash and my oldest would have to work hard to avoid getting behind (3 secondary schools wit potentially different books, methods, topics).
His anxiety might be a reason to win an appeal but if not I just don't know.
Long distance marriage not great either....it's 'only' 2 hours away though. DH could probably work from home one day a week but still. We don't have any other family around.
I will call the schools but can't imagine one them will say "yes we have a Y8 place and we'll keep it free until you've moved" (even if that was a short term rental) and a primary with the same answer.

:(

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