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Oh dear god they still don't have enough markers for GCSE English

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noblegiraffe · 24/05/2017 16:42

This ad just popped up on my twitter feed.

And this just after the news that KS2 writing assessments are totally unreliable - apparently marking English is quite hard to get right.

It's going to be a car crash come August. No way are the results going to be reliable. Get your remark applications ready.

Oh dear god they still don't have enough markers for GCSE English
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covgal1983 · 11/06/2017 17:11

Maybe I'm just awful. And didn't know it until now!!!

noblegiraffe · 11/06/2017 16:52

Oh dear, if experienced teachers are finding it tough then what hope do PGCE students and NQTs have?

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covgal1983 · 10/06/2017 12:47

Thanks. That would help - I do refer back but it's not easy with them on screen. I'll have to see whether I can find a way to print them off!

ElizabethBennettismybestfriend · 10/06/2017 12:39

Make sure you have hard copies of the standardising scripts beside you and refer to them all the time until you get your eye in.

covgal1983 · 10/06/2017 12:24

I am currently marking a GCSE paper (won't say which, but it's one of the subjects that is somewhat 'subjective'!). I've taught for 15 years and have never had any issues with my accuracy, but I am finding this so hard. Have been out of tolerance, but am taking great care and moving about half as fast as I need to. Really feel like chucking it in but it's going to hugely dent my professional confidence if I do. Don't particularly need th money - would like the experience. Currently 'paused' due to intolerance (which isn't great as I've sent the kids out with their dad all day so I can get on!) Argh!!! Any advice/support welcome!

examseason · 01/06/2017 19:42

When I took on a new subject I asked for a half allocation for my first session, I think they must have been quite desperate for examiners as they agreed straight away. It was a longer paper than I'd done previously and I didn't want to overcommit.

The first year took me ages but I've done a couple more since with a full allocation and it's got easier each time.

It's not with AQA so maybe they do things differently

tararabumdeay · 01/06/2017 16:27

Thank you, good idea. I'll have a look if the board still want markers when I get back next week.

examseason · 01/06/2017 15:38

I wouldn't underestimate how much you might struggle if you don't have a reliable computer and internet connection if you're marking online.

I would find it very hard to meet the deadlines if I had to content with PC problems

Can you give it a go for one session maybe with only a small allocation of scripts and see how you find it?

DoctorDonnaNoble · 01/06/2017 10:31

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tararabumdeay · 31/05/2017 20:08

I'm thinking of applying for AQA 8700

Pros:

CPD
I love my job
Good to get in at the start
Benefit to centre
Informed future teaching of new spec
Proactive/reactive
Hate stapling stuff to walls.

Cons:
Home computer rubbish
Like time off, but not too much
Not confident about viability new spec mark scheme
Too old for it to enhance my CV.

Neutral:
Money neither here nor there as we're always going to be on the negative side of Mr Micawber's happiness quote.

So what would you do?

ElizabethBennettismybestfriend · 31/05/2017 18:18

I mark GCSE English for Aqa and have for a long time. I have been asked to be available after the end of marking date so they are clearly expecting the marking to take longer. This has happened before so it's nothing new.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 30/05/2017 23:10

If their only issue is recruiting enough markers then they are possibly already doing better than the ks2/3 fiasco, noble.

At least the exam boards have experience of the process so everything else isn't going wrong alongside a shortage of markers.

wannabestressfree · 30/05/2017 22:41

They have even given me options (worryingly) am considering it. Am only part time at the mo due to extreme ill health so it may stop me from glazing over (or not) Smile

Cinderford · 30/05/2017 19:37

wannabe, the exam board must be confident that you can do it (examiners are graded after each session) or they wouldn't have asked you. They might even have some web-based training you can access to bring you up to speed. Whether you want to spend the next few weeks marking is up to you.....As others have said, it takes over your life Grin.

Now I must go - scripts calling.

behindthescenes · 30/05/2017 18:38

I have marked for AQA for an A level social science in the past but have refused since they changed to fully online marking. I found marking essays on a screen excruciating, hated the software which was slow and hard to use and generally the whole thing was just not worth the unpleasantness of staring at badly scanned handwriting on a laptop screen for hours getting headaches and RSI.

I can't really imagine marking lengthy English essays online - I found it much harder to hold a sense of even short essay questions in my head when I had to scroll back and forth to look at it than when I could see it all in front of me on paper. I imagine they will find more drop out if this is the first year it's been fully online.

examseason · 30/05/2017 17:40

I don't mark English so don't know the specifics of that one but I've found for the last few times I've marked that I've been asked to take on extra scripts (at no extra rate per paper, must be marking for the wrong boards).

From what I've heard this is a combination of other examiners not meeting the required standards or realising part way through that they can't finish on time for whatever reason.

I work part time and see marking as a second job rather than a bit of extra cash so always make sure I get my allocation done on time and meet all the admin deadlines.

I'm getting offered more work each sitting which would suggest my boards are struggling for examiners

Danglingmod · 30/05/2017 17:39

I imagine with maths, being a marker is much less useful for informing your teaching practice than in English or similar subjects?

noblegiraffe · 30/05/2017 17:24

Thanks for the explanation, Cinder. I've considered exam marking in the past for the CPD but the teachers at my school who do it pretty much say it's awful and takes over your life. At this point of the year I'm starting to think about winding down to the summer!

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wannabestressfree · 30/05/2017 17:00

Cinder I have had an email asking if I would reconsider. Do you think I would be ok without having done this years training days? Have experience but am aware the marking scheme is much harder etc.

Cinderford · 30/05/2017 14:55

Neither do I sometimes IHeart, neither do I. I just think of the extra money it brings in Grin

IHeartKingThistle · 30/05/2017 00:00

I had an amazing TL. I don't know how you do it Cinder!

Cinderford · 29/05/2017 19:17

Hi noblegiraffe. Some examiners drop out for genuine reasons, such as illness or bereavement. As long as they are straight with their TL and don't go off the radar for two weeks, refusing to answer emails, phone calls and texts then they will probably be invited to mark again.

Other examiners give up because the work is more time consuming than they expected Hmm / they don't like marking online / they just can't be arsed. When my board still had face-to-face standardising meetings it wasn't unknown for people to sign up as examiners and treat the day's training as CPD. They'd get paid £120 - £150 for attending, maybe even a night in a hotel, and they never had any intention of marking a single live script. As a previous poster said, some people are also stopped because their marking is so erratic.

The most difficult part of being a TL is hand-holding your team and making sure that as many as possible of them finish their allocation on time. It can be extremely stressful, to put it mildly. When TLs gather together, they tend to swap war stories about their worst ever examiners Shock

TheFallenMadonna · 29/05/2017 14:38

You have your allocation taken away if you don't meet the required standard, so last minute markers are required.

Mrskeats · 29/05/2017 14:32

I haven't but sometimes I pick up extra marking from examiners who have given up
poor really

noblegiraffe · 29/05/2017 13:33

But can you walk away mid-contract, mrskeats? Not complete your allocation?

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