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I know some of us have teenagers who work to capacity. But for the rest of us...

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BertrandRussell · 05/05/2017 15:04

....when they come home and proudly tell you that they got a "top B"-or, indeed a "top" any grade- do you really never say "But with A bit more work that could have been an A"? Go on, be honest. I promise not to tell anyone Grin

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insancerre · 07/05/2017 08:38

No never
I don't see the point of putting children under pressure to succeed
As long as they do enough to pass, that's good enough
I'm a big believer in praising the effort and not the results

Powergower · 07/05/2017 08:36

My boys are total cruisers. They piercer to do the minimum and I do try to encourage them however but I feel that they need to come to the realisation themselves that if they work hard they achieve more. My eldest boy is slowly starting to realise that if he works he can do better than most in his class and sometimes his competitive streak kicks in but it's rare.

sandgrown · 07/05/2017 08:36

DS has lots of ability but basically lazy like myself and my brother.IME nagging has no effect. They need to come to the realisation themselves even if that means the sharp shock of a very poor result.

soundsgreektome · 07/05/2017 08:28

A couple of years ago I went on an Understanding Self Harm in young adults course related to work.

I came home and casually asked my then 16 year old, very laid back, happy DS how much pressure he felt he was under. He said on a scale of 1-10, he was probably 11.

Why? Because he was trying his absolute best, and getting high B's in all subjects and his Dad and I would say brilliant, a bit more effort and it'll be an A.

We are not pushy parents. We have let all our children just get on with it, with no expectations than to do their best. Yet, we were the straws that were nearly breaking DS back. The younger two have not felt that pressure from us! Lesson learnt.

PettsWoodParadise · 07/05/2017 07:44

I wonder what the new GCSE scoring will do. My Nephew who did his GCSEs a few years ago found things easy and consistently getting A* so he put no more effort in as he felt more work would achieve no better result. These 9s are apparently going to be very rare, depending on the DC it may be a positive influence as something to at least aim for, for others a demotivating factor as it is so unattainable.

With DD she is quite self motivated but tends to rush and could do better if she slowed down or put more emphasis on the planning stage. She is only in Y7 so time to iron out these issues, I hope...

Crumbs1 · 06/05/2017 21:06

Sorry - they weren't allowed to opt for a job which didn't require qualifications and call it a choice. They had to get qualifications that allowed them to do virtually anything and could then choose a lower paid/more vocational route, if they wished. Not surprisingly none chose not to use the qualifications they had earned at 18.

Crumbs1 · 06/05/2017 21:03

Yep my job was to,get them to 18 with the academic qualifications and sufficient extracurricular achievement to do whatever they wanted in life. Blunt speaking isn't a problem in my book. Telling children they are doing fantastically when they are actually being lazy little toads does nobody any favours. The girls stressed and twitched their way to success but the boys both needed a firm metaphorical tug/kick sometimes.

TalkinPeece · 06/05/2017 20:52

I have one driven child and one not driven child.
One is female
one is male
guess which is which

tovelitime · 06/05/2017 11:45

My eldest is incredibly smart, top sets for everything and utterly happy to for his work to be good enough. I do ask where his mark was in relation to the class so that I can guage if the result is ok but where he has shrugged his shoulders over mediocre marks which should have been better I have started to remind him that if he wants to do A levels, which he does, and go to a good university, which he does, he's going to have to pull his finger out as his school have tough requirements for the sixth form and they won't bend them at all. I'm hoping that works and I also remind him that he's going to be seriously annoyed if people who he perceives are less able than him do better because they've put the effort in. Hopefully this will work

clearsommespace · 05/05/2017 17:34

Occasionally with the one who is very laid back and content with the good enough grades he gets by doing the minimum. I tell him he's not making the most of the brain he was blessed with. His reports usually say something along those lines so he'd see right through it if I were to say 'Well Done' continually. Or think I was easily fooled!

TheFallenMadonna · 05/05/2017 17:27

My son generally knows when he's slacked and when he hasn't. And so do I. So if he tells me with pride, I do congratulate him. If he twlls mw sheepishly, I do the look. He is canny though. He told me his mock English Language grade in a coffee shop. Like an errant husband or something Hmm Grin

Hassled · 05/05/2017 17:26

My go-to question is "and how was that compared to the rest of the class?". I need to know whether that 62% is amazing or piss-poor compared to everyone else - but I try to make it sound like I genuinely care how Mates X, Y and Z did because I'm interested in them. I'm not - it's all about needing the context. I will rot in hell.

ImperialBlether · 05/05/2017 17:20

Belle, my son was like that. He'd ask the teacher what was needed to pass and that's what he'd go for. (The teacher knew this - no idea why they didn't tell him a different mark.) He changed once he was at university though - he's been really hardworking ever since.

SoulAccount · 05/05/2017 17:17

Mmm, sometimes I say "so the work / revision you did took you up a grade?" To be positive but shine light on the relative impact of effort.

We had a 'growth mindset' workshop at the school last year. I can't remember the script we should stick to, though.

paediatricsaremything · 05/05/2017 17:12

My MIL did this, it didn't matter what mark my DH got it could always have been better. He left home at 20 and for 10 years barely spoke to her, there were of course other factor but this didn't help. He's never made a negative comment about our DC's marks good bad or indifferent. Both have done better than he did (he did pretty well by the way for 35+ years ago) in particular 1 who's got virtually A*'s all the way.
I know if he was writhing this he would say "please don't do it".

titchy · 05/05/2017 16:33

Oh god yes. Blush Unfortunately for ds he is our second. His older sibling is extremely studious... And has a job (another post-year 11 nag).... He is actually more academic, has a natural curiosity about the world and thinks outside the box. But GCSE revising - nope. Only need Bs and Cs and will be happy with those, despite my protestation that he's capable of straight A stars.

BelleTheSheepdog · 05/05/2017 16:22

Mine was told on good authority by a senior student that you only ever need 70 %. He took this to mean in the simplest, tiniest of tests, it was teeth grindingly frustrating.

WhatHaveIFound · 05/05/2017 16:18

I do occasionally. My DD is on track for an A in one subject which will beat DH's B and my C in the same subject. But i know she's capable of an A*...

[takes a step back now Grin]

weaselwords · 05/05/2017 16:17

All. The. Time. To the point where he now tells me that next time he'll do more revision. I think he believes himself...

GuestWW · 05/05/2017 16:06

I do it with my two pre-teens, see no reason to stop when they become teenagers. Shock

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