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DS Yr7 still having problems at school - should I change?

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lottielo · 23/04/2017 15:06

Sorry about the long post. Have posted about this before but some new info in para 2.

Very worried about DS since he started in Year 7. His behaviour has changed a lot and he has lost interest in a lot of the hobbies he used to enjoy, as well as being very bad tempered and rude at home. Two weeks after he started, his form tutor said that she was worried about him. I told her that he says that he is being bullied but I thought that he was just being over sensitive when being teased. She explained that bullying can be teasing, name calling, running away etc, all things that DS mentioned. She was very helpful and arranged for him to meet weekly with someone from ESBAS to build up his resilience. DS didn't have any problems at primary school, there were the usual arguments and disagreements every now and then, but it wasn't an issue. Since starting at the large comprehensive, the kids from his old school have stuck together and a couple of them joined DS and his 'best friend' . DS says that this new group teases him relentlessly until he cries and then mocks him for being upset. DS likes learning, but when he answers questions in class, they say he is showing off. There has been a bit of pushing around, but nothing very physical and I think it might have been 'rough play'. They call him lots of names, including 'gay', although that they all do that and I don't think they mean it in the way we would define it. Thing is, DS keeps hanging around with this group because he said that he is frightened of being alone. What hurts him most is that his 'best friend' never stands up for him even though DS always defends his friend when others call him 'the ginger kid'. I had hoped that things would settle down, but it seems to be getting worse. Teachers have had to intervene much more frequently when DS gets upset in class. The school hasn't been in touch with me since about any of this, but I contacted his form tutor and said that I'm wondering whether DS could be on the spectrum (albeit mildly). He ticks most of the boxes for aspergers, but so do I and many people I know. I'm looking for strategies rather than labels, but also don't want to waste anyone's time. Teacher suggested visit to GP, but I feel a bit silly taking him for a consultation just because he cries when people make fun of him. He seems perfectly 'normal', articulate and very sociable and chatty with good eye contact. He was doing a lot of hand flapping at the start of the year, but this has settled down.

Today, his best friend's dad had a conversation with me and said that DS is not being bullied and the problem is that he is over sensitive and cries constantly. He said that unless he gets that behaviour under control, he will be increasingly bullied. He said his son says that DS misunderstands situations and blames DS for the disagreements (although just last week his son spent 20 minutes being told off by a teacher who witnessed an incident). One of the reasons the dad believes DS is so upset and angry is that he thinks DS shows clear signs of being gay and is trying to adjust himself mentally to a future life as a gay man. Now, I think that DS could be gay and I'm fussed either way. However, I'm wondering why DS would be so upset and angry because we have made it clear to all our children that their sexuality is of no concern to us and we will love them the same whatever. We do not tolerate homophobic language at home. Is it at around this age when kids would start to worry about being gay? Could this be a source of anxiety? I'm also wondering if the so-called signs, e.g.sensitivity, hand flapping, indicate that he's gay or instead autistic or bullied or none of these things. No teacher has suggested to me that they think he is on the spectrum or has any mental problems. The dad said that if he was me, he would be VERY concerned about DS's mental state.

So, now I don't know how to support him and where to do from here. DS has friends out of school and there have never been any issues or arguments. I don't know whether DS is the problem or his friends. I feel that if he could wrench himself away from this group, the tears would stop and he would be happier. I've also seriously considered changing schools. He says he wants to leave. But what if the problem is actually DS? The same thing, or worse, could happen in another school. I'm at my wits end.

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DoItTooJulia · 23/04/2017 17:52

Ffs. And another. Wife of the mark.

Sorry!

DoItTooJulia · 23/04/2017 17:52

Typo-reading him relentlessly should say teasing.

DoItTooJulia · 23/04/2017 17:49

I am worried that this is going to sound harsh-I don't mean it to, but I think you've minimised every example of your ds being treated badly by other kids. It reads like you've tried to find a reason to explain it all away- rough play, over sensitive, gay, but not in the way would define it, and I think he needs you to stand up for him a bit here.

So you have a sensitive lad that may have other stuff going on (sexuality, potentially undiagnosed aspergers) and he needs to know that you have his back.

Did you tell the other dad that you think it's crappy that his son doesn't stick up for him when your son sticks up for his son?

Did you tell his teacher that victim resilience isn't the answer to bullying?

It may be that these kids enjoy getting a rise out of your son and not giving them the satisfaction of tears and upset will help calm this down, but honestly, they shouldn't be reading him relentlessly and trying to get a rise out of him. I'd be pretty cross if that was going on with my son. Yes, I'd be talking to him about the whole don't give them the satisfaction thing, but it would be along side dealing with the issue. Mocking him for getting answers right in class? 'rough play'? Calling him names, all need dealing with.

I know my post is harsh-but you're his advocate here and I just wonder if he's not getting the vibe that you understand what it's like for him?

It all sounds very difficult and I am sorry if I'm wife of the mark. Poor kid-I just hope it gets sorted for him Flowers

noblegiraffe · 23/04/2017 17:34

He ticks most of the boxes for aspergers, but so do I and many people I know.

The thing is, this could be because he gets his Aspergers traits from you, and you tend to hang around with people who are similar to you, rather than it meaning that he's not autistic. It sounds like it is an avenue that could be worth exploring. Sometimes things like autism only become apparent at the point of a major transition such as moving to secondary school, hitting puberty, or the stress of GCSEs.

On the other hand, he could just be a sensitive boy and his friends could be horrible. There are certainly groups of Y7 boys who are utterly vile to each other, disguising horrible comments as 'banter' and 'only messing around'. That they are persisting in calling him gay doesn't necessarily mean that he's gay, merely that they have found something that upsets him and are using it. In this scenario, breaking him away from the friendship group could cause short term pain, but in the long run be better for his mental health. You could ask the school about changing tutor groups or halves of the year and if they could think of anyone who might make a better friend to your DS. The school should be coming down hard on this bullying behaviour, but it can be quite hard to address when the victim thinks that the bullies are his friends.

If he is getting upset because he is gay, then it doesn't matter so much that you've taught tolerance, rather that his schoolmates are picking on it as something to take the piss out of. If someone is saying 'ha ha you're so gay' then it's going to be hard if a voice in your head is thinking 'maybe I am' and it's something you're confused over.

I think breaking away from the friendship group has to be the first move, and talk to the school about how best to achieve this.