Should child be refused GCSE revision session because of detention?

The school need to be flexible. They can't have it both ways and if they cannot see a way through this, everyone suffers. The school and the child. Just go to his athletics club and train there. If the school cared about his sport they would have supported him. My children did loads of extra activities and represented the school. They were cut a bit of slack. It is just sensible. It is also the difference between private and state! Private schools understand about an all round education!

The mum sounds nuts redsrule

I would think mum making such a fuss about it will only add to the stress. Where I work competitive sports for Y11 don't exist in the Summer Term. It is a really difficult time for them.

However, I had one mum complain to me yesterday that I was unfair running my revision sessions 10-2 during the holidays because her DS likes a lie in. He rocked up at 12.30 and she was irate that I wouldn't stay after 2 to catch him up on what he had missed. She also complained that there were hardly any snacks left when he got there.

I wonder if he will attend the early session today?!?!

Sounds like he's made the right decision. I wouldn't like this either as I'd worry he'd miss out on helpful revision. He wasn't asking for it to be cancelled and surely there will be future detentions held at the school that he could be moved into, although it sounds like the detention was a bit ott anyway under the circumstances.

Is the work not set online?

Everywhere I've worked has used a platform like Google Classroom or another VLE so that students can access homework.

Ultimately, though, it's still got to be the student's responsibility.

By year 11 they need to have this sorted. College/uni won't be doing nearly as much hand holding!

Honestly it's better if they get their heads around 'meet deadlines, or there are consequences' much younger. Otherwise it's liable to come as an unpleasant shock.

She also going to add the suggestion that if pupil represent the school during school time that they have a system to pass on the missed work and any homework set and if their is deadlines they are put with this information.

I wonder how they will get on at college and university?

I do the same as crow, the detention is set, just bring the work in and you can go.

Unfortunately there are many children who will use the revision session to get out of the detention.

I just wish I had teachers stamina🙂.

I think you probably are a saint crowe, I always tell my husband my heart is black;far from sainthood😀.

Also, anyone who wants not to be in detention with me for missed deadline has merely to rock up at the start of the detention with the missing work completed. That's all I want.

They are then free to go to whatever revision session they like.

I'm not making kids sit & stare at a wall for an hour because I find it a fulfilling use of my time. I just want the work in so I can mark it!

We do try!

But honestly, if one of mine came home & said 'I've got a detention for not handling in Maths homework but I soooo need to go to extra Science revision' (or whatever) I'm afraid I'd tell them to suck it up.

If the consequences of missing the Science session were likely to impact on grades, I can definitely reassure you that the Science Dept would have full school clearance to overrule all detentions - I've taught in scenarios where, say, a teacher has left & it turns out a whole cohort's coursework is in a right bloody state.

At this point a whole school klaxon goes off & all other detentions are quietly cancelled for the greater good.

Individual student missing one session as has a detention to serve elsewhere is NOT a biggy.

Who would have thought I got A in English with all those mistakes!,eighties, those were the days.😀

oh god, grateful 😀!!

I think from what I've read then that you do all mostly try to be fair, which does seem to be the case in my teens school, and I will be forever greatful for the time the teachers have put into their education;but then we are in Wales so perhaps things aren't so intense here,so greatful most of the children here get their choice of school.

oops too, teachers marking!,😀

typically they do revision during detention... detention is a revision session. Mountain out of a molehill, maybe?

I do also think that teachers are under far to much pressure nowadays, you see it in the way it rubs off on your teens, when they become over anxious about grades. My daughters school, even though it has improved a huge amount over the years, still gets far too many inspections, it must be exhausting for everyone.

schokolade:

The problem with rearranging the detention is that he will be far from the only student asking. If a department sets detention on a Wednesday and it clashes with a revision session, it won't always be possible to rearrange it, because on a Monday they might have a revision session for something else, on a Tuesday they might have a department meeting, on a Thursday they might have a KS5 lesson and on a Friday they will all be more than ready to go home on time. If ten students a week request a rearranged detention it throws everything else out and is ten times the admin.

That is good to know if that is true Trifle, because I think teachers probably know the ones that are trying it on all the time,and the ones that have a genuine difficulty.

In fact, I'm quite relaxed about extensions for homework.

Kid hasn't done it because they had a sports match/were at other parent's/something kicked off at home/they just forgot - 'ok, bring it tomorrow'.

Detention kicks in per school policy if they still don't. Which is a fair consequence.

Incidentally, my ds is super bright but dyspraxic & hopelessly disorganised. He attends the school where I teach.

The teachers who get the best out of him - as he will cheerfully admit - are the ones who say 'no homework Little Crow? Hand it in tomorrow or you're in detention'. He sorts it, or he does it in detention. Then it's over.

The ones who fluster about giving extra chances etc are the ones who cause him to get extra stressed, totally behind, & ostrich over the whole hot mess.

I've had to have it written into his IEP that he is sanctioned like everyone else. The result has been a huge improvement.

If he misses revision sessions at GCSE or beyond because he's not met deadlines elsewhere, then that is how it will be. I'm increasingly hopeful that we won't have this issue beyond his current year 8, because those clear boundaries & consequences are in place.

Of COURSE there is room for slack. One of my most conscientious Y10s was off before Easter - quite ill. I had to email his mum & suggest she banned him from opening Google Classroom for my subject - he needs to get well, not fanny about doing homework.

But generally there needs to be clear expectations. Vague requirements don't do students any favours.

Also - it's detention, not the pillory. A mild & appropriate consequence.

I think the detention should be rearranged. People on here are so pious when it comes to teenagers sometimes. If he nearly always hands his homework in then he hardly needs to 'learn' about deadlines like a 9 year old...