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Do you have a Year 11 doing GCSE this summer?

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BertrandRussell · 03/04/2017 09:55

There have been lots of threads, some quite heated, about the new grading. I thought it might be interesting for those of us with current year 11s to say what their predictions for English and maths, what they need and what sort of school they are at.

My ds is at a secondary modern. He is predicted 8 for English and 7 for maths. He needs a 7 for English and a 4 for maths.

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noblegiraffe · 08/04/2017 13:36

What's interesting about requiring an 8 for Further Maths is that this is actually a slightly lower entry requirement than requiring an A as an 8 covers the top end of the A grade as well as the lower/middle end of the A. I wonder if that will have any effect.

AtiaoftheJulii · 08/04/2017 13:34

Not sure whether ds's school are asking for particular grades for specific subjects, but they're a pre-selected/self-selecting group I guess. They have to get good marks in Additional Maths to do further.

I just looked at the sixth form college that he might go to - they say 8 for FM, preferably 7 for maths, but if you get a 6 you can do a week intensive algebra course before term starts.

Laniakea · 08/04/2017 13:12

Dd's 6th form is saying a B or level 6 in order to do the subject at A level (for sciences also a 6 in maths and for humanities a 6 in English).

They are loosely suggesting 8 = A*, 7 = A, 6 = B, 5 = C. They need a 5 in maths & English if they want to do 1 or 2 A levels + a BTEC and 6s if they want to do 3 or 4 A levels.

noblegiraffe · 08/04/2017 12:07

My school is officially asking for a 6 for maths but what will actually happen is that we will throw some hard algebra at them in the first couple of weeks, give them a test and if they can't cope, encourage them in a different direction (including Core Maths).

Draylon · 08/04/2017 12:03

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mousymary · 07/04/2017 18:25

I'm surprised at so many high predictions. Obviously it is possible to score 100% in Maths, but in English? The reasons for a 9 being the highest grade is so they can introduce a 10 if needs be, or an 11, or a 53...

What will the Oxbridge situation be? With a new grading system and no ASs, I suppose more emphasis will be given to entrance exam.

ifonly4 · 07/04/2017 17:08

DD at secondary

Predicted 7 in maths, English Lit and Eng Lang
Not taking any of these at A level, so just needs a 4/5 to avoid having to retake one
Done two lots of mocks, got 7s for maths, 8s for English lit and an 8 and 7 for Eng lang. Her English teacher is one of the ones whose had training on how the board will be marking them, so this will be interesting to see if her class have more accurate predictions that other classes.

choccyp1g · 07/04/2017 10:16

Missed out what he needs for 6th form (different school, current school only goes to GCSEs)

They want 7 in Maths to do Further Maths, (6 for just single maths)

choccyp1g · 07/04/2017 10:07

My DS at a comprehensive, a "good" one, which generally gets GCSE results in the top quartile.

Predicted 9 for Maths, got about 98% in Mocks, teachers are hoping for 100% in the real thing. He is easily the best in his year, but several others are also scoring in the 90% range. However, even in the top set, a lot of them found the mocks extremely hard, and are scoring under 50%

In English he got 4s in the Mocks, and is now getting 5s and 6s in some tests. They didn't give us official predictions, but expect them all to improve by at least one grade. He reckons he sits in the top half of top set, which is a bit worrying...either he is flattering himself, or the overall English results are not looking good.

Draylon · 07/04/2017 09:15

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noblegiraffe · 06/04/2017 23:12

It's better in that kids who get a grade 4 this year who wouldn't have to resit won't be competing in future years against kids who got a grade 4, did have to resit and subsequently got a grade 5. It also gives the grade 4 more value as it now shouldn't be considered 'not good enough' to progress to the next level of study.

beggingbehind · 06/04/2017 23:06

Ahhh okay. I don't know if that makes it better or worse so basically you now need the 'equivalent' of a d/e to hit re sit... I'm confused!

noblegiraffe · 06/04/2017 22:35

I find it strange that pass rate this year is 4 but next couple of years is a 5.

begging this has changed. The government slipped out the night before the Article 50 notification so most people missed it that from now on a 4 will always be the grade which won't require resits for maths and English.

The 4 has now been named the 'standard pass' and the 5 a 'strong pass'.

beggingbehind · 06/04/2017 22:11

Forgot to add in mocks

English lit - 3
English lang - 6
Maths- 5 (Although the whole year apparently struggled so those predicted 8's got like 6's, higest was a 7!) The maths paper is apprently REALLY diffcuilt.

My undestanding of 9's is they go to top 5% in country.

booellesmum · 06/04/2017 22:11

DD superselective grammar.
Predicted maths 7, literature 8, language 7.
They only need 5 to stay at 6th form - but 7 if doing that subject.
No 9s predicted for anyone as far as she knows.

beggingbehind · 06/04/2017 22:08

DS secondary comp (has repuation of being a 'shit school' think its quite good really

English Lang -6
English Lit - 5
Maths- 6

Needs 6 in all to do what he wants for uni, needs 4's to get into a leve (not doing english and maths)

I find it strange that pass rate this year is 4 but next couple of years is a 5. But the thing im dislking most about the new systmn is our kids when asked what results they got will have to say something like 'oh yea i got a 7,6, 5 2 A*, B and 3 C's" how confussing!

CharleyDavidson · 06/04/2017 21:56

We're in Wales, so don't have the new grades, still the letters.

DD is predicted As and As across the board. Great, you think.
Until she breaks her heart at a B in eng lit (after having a not great teacher standing in for the usual one and some messing around with the timing/staging of assessments).
And then is more annoyed at the A she got in numeracy rather than being happy she got an A
in Maths.

She's still predicted As and A*s for the rest.

But I hate the pressure they put on the children with their targetted and predicted grades.

Listening to your child sob in the middle of the night due to stress and watch her spend every spare minute doing homework or revising is not a happy place to be.

Rosieposy4 · 06/04/2017 21:55

Draylon, yes i do. A seven should be ok for A level Maths

Rosieposy4 · 06/04/2017 21:54

Doing iGCSE maths so still letter grades, predicted A*
English is the one he struggles with, predicted 6s for both lang and lit, could go down to a 5 or up to a 7 on a good day 😳🤞

Sostenueto · 06/04/2017 13:24

My gdd in year 10 predicted level 9 in eng lit, math, geography, biology and chemistry. 8s in physics, r.e , english , Spanish and French. She was at same level last year so think teachers may be playing safe with predictions. Everybody waiting to see what happens with year 11. All my gdd exams will be the new GCSEs. She goes to Catholic comprehensive.

SoupDragon · 06/04/2017 10:21

DS2s mocks were all graded in letters and they haven't given any predictions other than "if he bothers to do some work he should get a whole set of top grades"

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 06/04/2017 10:16

DD, comprehensive.
I think they are saying 8s but hoping 9s might be possible, but since they don't really know what a 9 will take, it's all a little tricky.

BeyondThePage · 06/04/2017 10:10

for maths stand alone a 6 for entry (tech college and comp) a 7 (grammar) and 8 (superselective). Kind of suggests a 7 will be considered ok for "doing well" at A level.

our local sixth forms are saying that for further maths an 8 is a must have - for entry let alone for doing well,

Draylon · 06/04/2017 09:35

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