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Form Groups in Secondary School

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FagAshMIL · 24/03/2017 14:49

Does anyone know how, generally, form groups are compiled for the new starters (Y7) when moving up from primary? By form groups I mean where they go for registration and not which group/stream they might be put in for a particular subject which will be allocated according to academic ability.

Do secondary schools get a pupil record sent to them from primary that they read and possibly gleam information as to who might/might not mix well together? I'm sure that Heads can't possibly speak to Heads from all local primaries for information on each pupil? Do they only get a 'heads up' (if you'll pardon the pun) about certain pupils if there are very particular issues such as SN or previous (bad) behaviour of a consistent nature.

Do these form groups stay the same throughout (like they did when I was at school) or are they fluid now?

I suppose all schools are different but I'm thinking along the lines of very big state comps rather than small state/private schools.

Any Heads/Deputies or admin staff who can shed some light?

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MaisyPops · 24/03/2017 14:59

We mix all ours up into form groups. It's fairly random other than making sure theres a mixed ability range.

Children with additional needs will usually get placed into a group where school think the tutor is the 'right' person to meet the needs e.g. I've often had boys with ASD in my groups and more challenging behaviour whereas a colleague tends to get girls with a lot of SEMH issues.

Some schools ive worked in they stay the same y7-11 ans others have a y7-9 group and then they get shuffled in y10/11. I like either.
Generally theres not much moving because otherwise you get endless requests tk move groups every time some friendahip spat happens. We get all kinds of calls asking for form groups, teaching groups, seating plans etc to all be modified based on who did/didnt say something on snapchat or whatever. Moves beyond asking staff to keep separate are rare and only happen if there is a real and serious need.

ExitPursuedByUser54321 · 24/03/2017 14:56

When DD moved to secondary school they grouped the two forms by location - presumably on the basis that children who lived close to each other would meet when travelling etc.

That worked well. Hmm

WhatHaveIFound · 24/03/2017 14:56

My DC were asked to name a friend they'd like to be with in their Y7 form class. With DD, both the primary school and I wrote requesting two girls that she didn't want to be with due to previous bullying issues.

There have been form group changes each year but they're supposed to stay in the same class from Y10-Y13 as they've been arranged alphabetically. However i understand that changes are considered.

golfbuggy · 24/03/2017 14:54

I imagine it depends very much on the school.
DS's school has vertical tutor groups so they have 3 or 4 children from each of Y7-Y11. They seem to have tried to pick children who didn't know each other in each year group (different schools). They stick in the same group all the way through (losing the Y11s and gaining new Y7s).

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