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Tories shit all over the comprehensive system with a return to the 1950s and a nationwide 11+

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noblegiraffe · 21/03/2017 20:33

That nice comp down the road that you had your eye on for your kid currently in primary?

BAM, now it's got an entrance exam and your kid is going to be bussed out to a secondary modern. We're staring down the barrel of a return to the two tier system across England.

Word on the street is that Theresa May, because she is a total fucking thoughtless idiot who doesn't have a clue about education and couldn't be arsed to read the Green Paper consultation responses from people who do, has kept in the imminent White Paper on grammar schools the option for current comprehensives to convert to grammar schools.

Heads will be preparing their applications to convert as we speak, because no school wants to miss the boat and become the secondary modern of the area.

Everyone with kids in primary should be very worried about this. Even if you think your kid should have a good shot at getting into the grammar, the test is unreliable.

www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/government-set-allow-existing-schools-convert-grammar-status-white

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Ollycat · 21/03/2017 22:11

Ta1kinPeace basically none from out of catchment- my children's school offers about 3.2 miles in catchment

Ta1kinPeace · 21/03/2017 22:08

Ollycat
Bucks is very small with very porous borders.
How many of the kids at the grammars come from other areas?
As if they had Grammars nearer to home, the Bucks results would revert to the norm.
And of course the average results for Bucks are no better than any non selective county ...

Noble
THe heads of the shire county LEAs are so dead set against this I'm not sure they will play ball (based on personal conversations)
as they are the ones who would have to cover the bus fares

noblegiraffe · 21/03/2017 22:05

I'd love that, Talkin but apparently they're going to shoehorn something in about restricting the number of grammars per area. So it'll be an arms race. Not sure how it will work across county borders but I'm sure they've got a plan for that, and a plan to ensure that only areas that want them will get them Hmm

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Ollycat · 21/03/2017 22:05

Ta1kinPeace I disagree Bucks is 100% selective (opt out) and tge grammar results are outstanding.

Ollycat · 21/03/2017 22:03

It's hardly a surprise though - her constituency started discussions pushing two years ago with the grammar my kids attend about opening a satalite school in RBWM.

TooStressyForMyOwnGood · 21/03/2017 22:03

We have a nice comp down the road... my DC are primary and pre-school.

This just gets worse doesn't it :(

Ta1kinPeace · 21/03/2017 22:00

Au contraire, Noble
Let them convert.
All of them, especially the academies.
As Grammars only get better results when their places are scarce.
If half the schools in a county convert, the lack of difference in results will devalue the brand in a couple of years.

noblegiraffe · 21/03/2017 20:52

I would not be surprised to find out that Theresa May has a large number of shares or a family interest in private tutoring services. They're the only people in education who will win out of this.

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greathat · 21/03/2017 20:42

it is all utterly fucking stupid and a waste of money that is really needed in the comps

goodbyestranger · 21/03/2017 20:40

There's a surprise.....

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