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Trouble with new shoes

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boobyooby · 14/03/2017 19:38

I bought eldest daughter new school shoes last week but her form tutor upon noticing them Friday marched her off to Head of Year and between them they have decided they are not shoes but trainers. She argued back that they were from the school shoe section of shop but form tutor replied of course that's what they will tell you in the shop to get your sale!

They were from the school shoe section Confused
and I've since called up the company making the shoe customer services to ask what they call them. Have code on box and name and they confirmed they are a new range of leather school shoes which I now have from them in writing.

School are adamant they are not shoes but are now calling them pumps not trainers and she was sent out of form again for wearing them and I have spoken to the next person higher than head of year. She insists they break school uniform guidelines as she thinks they are pumps so I've asked her to provide her evidence to claim this and what part of "plain black shoes, must be flat, no glitter or studs" they don't conform too.

Was promised the situation would be resolved by this morning but of course have not heard anything - how do I get a response or how long should I leave it before I take it further to find out why they feel they aren't shoes although I have it in writing they are leather shoes and complain about the teachers attitudes

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MrsMozart · 14/03/2017 20:50

They're shoes!

Trainers soles are different, padding is different, etc etc etc

HarrietSchulenberg · 14/03/2017 20:49

Shoes. Trainers are sports shoes and DM don't make sports shoes. Ask her PE teacher if she'd find them acceptable for running in and I'll bet you a tenner she wouldn't.
They are flat, black, lace-up, patent leather shoes.

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boobyooby · 14/03/2017 20:44

Kickers were lace up ... I'll try and do a link but they were called Kick Lo Patent

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JonesyAndTheSalad · 14/03/2017 20:41

It's the sole causing the confusion. But they are definitely shoes. Black, patent leather shoes.

Umirrific · 14/03/2017 20:39

Oops... trainer-like.

Umirrific · 14/03/2017 20:38

Is the problem that they lace up? Is that what makes them trainer li

Umirrific · 14/03/2017 20:37

Those do not look like trainers or to me and clearly meet the guidelines you've posted as well. I can't believe people think they are trainer Confused

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boobyooby · 14/03/2017 20:35

Her previous pair of school shoes (along with 99% of her friends) were those patent kickers ...... although I won't grumble as they lasted her a whole year!

Seems we are fairly split although I must admit I didn't know DM did trainers either. These don't have enough give in the sole to bend, let alone run around playing hockey ... she does wear a pair of white trainers for PE Hmm

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LynetteScavo · 14/03/2017 20:27

They are DMs!

Doc Martin's don't even make trainers.

Some schools do have an issue with DMs though..but just for girls.

I wonder if the patent is an issue.

They definitely aren't pumps and I wouldn't fancy training in them.

Heratnumber7 · 14/03/2017 20:25

Maybe.
I've never seen black patent trainers!

MrsSeverusSnape · 14/03/2017 20:23

I'm glad I'm not the only one Herat, maybe there's a glitch in the matrix and we're looking at a totally different picture.

Heratnumber7 · 14/03/2017 20:21

I'm with you Severus.

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boobyooby · 14/03/2017 20:21

It's the company that makes them that has told me they are shoes not the shop.

Blush
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MrsSeverusSnape · 14/03/2017 20:18

I'm I looking at the same thing as the other posters? They are shoes.

BlackHillsofDakota · 14/03/2017 20:17

They are pumps, they wouldn't be allowed at DD's school regardless of what the shop called them

LIZS · 14/03/2017 20:16

If they were white leather you'd be saying it was a trainer. It has no heel and the sole is one piece.

Hoppinggreen · 14/03/2017 20:16

Trainers
I'm sorry but it doesn't matter whether You, MN a shoe shop or anyone else approves of those shoes. It's up to the school and they have said that are not appropriate for school

Heratnumber7 · 14/03/2017 20:15

Trainers aren't made of patent leather! They look like shoes to me.

MadeForThis · 14/03/2017 20:13

They look like trainers. Sorry

LIZS · 14/03/2017 20:06

Trainers!

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boobyooby · 14/03/2017 20:06

I do fear for any small creatures when she walks home in the evenings (it's about 2 miles)

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boobyooby · 14/03/2017 20:05

Sorry, can't work out how to reply or attach pictures without going back to desktop site:

I'm only on phone but they are these with a thinner sole :

School policy literally is one line " must be flat, no heels plain black shoes, no glitter or studs"

Trouble with new shoes
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loopylulu80 · 14/03/2017 20:01

Can you post a picture or a link

BackforGood · 14/03/2017 19:55

What Trojan said.
Just because a shop that wants your money calls them 'suitable for school shoes' doesn't mean they comply with the uniform regulations at your dd's school.
If you feel the school uniform policy is wrong, then take that up with the senior management or get your dd to via the school council or whatever, but most schools are fairly clear what school shoes 'are' and a shop calling trainers, 'shoes' doesn't make them school shoes.

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