London Secondary schools - could you help me understand application process?

Ask your local authority about their fair access protocol. When we moved back to the uk after 3 years abroad, fair access protocol was invaluable in getting the dc in to our preferred schools. Ds was going in to year 8, dd in to year 4. We couldn't apply for places via the usual route because we were outside the UK. So without fair access protocol I don't think we would've got places.

'Catchment' has a precise meaning - it is a defined priority admissions area (and living within it puts you in a higher category than non-catchment, but does not mean you get s place if there are more catchment children than places and they are all filled by families living closer) Some London schools do have them, and it's becoming rather commoner in schools with sibling priority.

The actual admissions footprint (sometimes, and rather confusingly called effective catchment) varies from year to year and is generally shrinking because of the demographic bulge. Councils publish information about admissions, which would include both what admission category a school reaches and the greatest distance in the final category. Have s look at those for both the boroughs you are considering.

When it comes to applications, you apply to the borough in which you live, but you can list schools in any borough (up to the LEAs to co-ordinate - something they do all the time in London)

Sorry meant to add - the areas of selection are 'faith' although Twyford in Acton offers a few music places but the competition is fierce

I think the west london free school does some language? again kids will have been tutored for that since birth or be bilingual
other than that it is generally the standard - special needs/looked after children/sibling /children of staff- distance although check in the brochure - Hounslows is particularly clear I think ...

Just to add, some schools now select on things like musical/DT aptitude.

Also, there is a massive amount of movement within London schools, people move out of London all the time, so even if you don't get your first choice straight away you have a good chance of getting it eventually.

Solittle - I live in that area and 1.2m can be no use for catchments for 'desirable' schools-however a number of free schools are opening and others expanding - there is a massive boom starting this year in numbers of kids and lots of schools have expanded over the last couple of years.....most of the schools are at least good if not better than that - so keep an open mind...
If you haven't got a substantial church record you can pretty much rule out any of the church schools..they are all massively over subscribed..
the borough borders don't count in London admissions its mainly distance lots of kids go from Ealing to hounslow schools as is so residential
Its generally all about distance so buy as close to the school you want...or maybe rent for a couple of years before buying-
Primary schools will not advise about senior schools in my experience ....
look at last years data but catchments are getting smaller all the time

Think you will find 1.2 miles is way out for any decent London school.

It really isn't a minefield if you are arriving in time to submit your application in time for the October deadline.

You will be able to go to the Open Days in September (look on the schools websites , they may even publish dates in the summer), and submit your form, called the CAF.

And if you are in the doorstep , you will get in on distance.

It is unlikely that your primary will be able to offer any advice on your chances of getting in and in fact teachers, even heads, can be sources of misinformation, especially understanding the Equal Preference System. (The system which ensures that schools compile their admissions lists purely on their published admissions criteria, and not on where you placed the school in your list. If more than one school can offer you a place, The LA will allocate you the school which is highest on your list. That's why it is no disadvantage to put a long shot first)

Are you buying or renting?

'Catchment' is used for shorthand for distance. The vast majority of secondaries use distance as the main criteria after looked-after, social and medical, and siblings, so in that it is just like primary.

Faith schools and selective schools have their respective criteria,

Occasional schools use Lottery,

Some schools have additional categories: a few places for music or sport or art.

Some regular schools have an additional process: all applicants sit a banding test, and using the admissions criteria (distance etc) they take equal number of students from each ability band.

1.2 miles sounds quite a distance for London.

The LA will publish an admissions booklet which gives details of each school and a table which shows 'last distance' from last year's admissions.

The last distance shown is the offers made on National Offers Day (1st March). It gets a bit wider once the waiting lists have been worked through.

Look at the admissions criteria for the schools you are interested in.

There is no disadvantage to putting a 'long shot' school as your first preference. What matters is that somewhere below it you can put a school you will almost certainly get into and will be happy enough with.

How old will your child be when you move back? If they are just starting secondary school it will be different to joining the school mid way through.
This is called in year admissions.
If joining mid way you are looking at schools with space. It doesn't matter if you are next door to the. School if it full you are unlikely to get a place without appealing.
The good news is the lea has to find your child a school place. The bad news is it doesn't have to be at a good school.
However london does have a fluid population and just because a school as over subscribed age 11 doesn't mean it is higher up the school.
If you look at areas on right move it will tell you if the local schools are oversubscribed and what there foster is.
Best to pick an area with lots of good schools nearby so you have the best chance.
If you are coming back for the start of secondary it's best to be in the uk by 1october the year before.this is to go through the normal admission round. Do you know where you would like to live

You need google 'secondary school admissions' for whatever borough the schools of interest are in. There is normally document with a list of admission rules for each school and how far out in terms of distance they go each year. Or you could ask here.

Some are selective - there are grammars in Kingston and sutton for example. Some have a few places based on selection for a particular talent..

Some are religious with very strict church attendance criteria

Most seem to prioritise Looked after kids, siblings and then distance (normally as the crow flies but you need to check its not walking distance).

If your DD is already in yr 6 then you have missed application s. The results came out yesterday. If not, forms have to be in by october 31st and you get the results the following March 1st.

For most London school there is no such thing as catchment

You need to download the school application guides from the relevant local council and go from there

There may be a test to sit for entry to all the schools
There may be supplemental art or language ability tests
Some schools have banded entry or a set number of places for people who score highly on the main test
Some have religious entry criteria