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Attendance Poster On Classroom Wall

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Verbena37 · 16/11/2016 22:01

Totally fuming!
DS (yr7) has just told me his form tutor has put a ladder of attendance poster up on the classroom wall with stickers showing every child's attendedence!!

Surely this is breaking the data protection act?
Why would the school think this was in any way acceptable?

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BratFarrarsPony · 16/11/2016 22:28

" Would you rather I said "Jimmy your attendance is 87%, bit rubbish but hey ho".
No I would rather you didnt say anything.
And I have made no kind of 'personal attack'.
In my opinion a teacher who would do this is inconsiderate.
I am permitted an opinion I believe.

PberryT · 16/11/2016 22:28

On the flip side, for some pupils the only award they will get is 100% attendance. Why shouldn't they be rewarded for that?

ITCouldBeWorse · 16/11/2016 22:28

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Wolfiefan · 16/11/2016 22:27

It may well be year group policy. You can ask for it to be removed but they may well refuse.
And positively shame? Bit of a contradiction.
So they can't point out when students could do better (some do have time off for a bit of a cold) or have done well. Schools can't win.

Caprianna · 16/11/2016 22:27

If I did this at work I would be called in to see HR so I don't get why its ok to do for children who have even less control ober illness. People are different. Some have chronic health conditions, some get sick more easily and not everyone bounce back after just ine day off. I find it very strange that people who work with children think this is ok. Surely they should have empathy for the children in their care?

PberryT · 16/11/2016 22:25

Because I have to! And the kids aren't stupid, they know Jimmy needs regular hospital visits, they know Jimmy has an ongoing condition. They are more sympathetic than you would think. Would you rather I said "Jimmy your attendance is 87%, bit rubbish but hey ho".

They also know that Daves mum lets him have a day off each time a new xbox game is out. And that Lizzies dad lets her have Fridays off if she feels like it.

Ironically the children with chronic illnesses often have decent attendance as they will try to get to school as much as possible.

Brat I'm reporting your post as a personal attack. You have no idea what kind of teacher I am.

Verbena37 · 16/11/2016 22:25

Very true brat. These people are supposed to be 'in loco parentis' every day for our children but I'm constantly finding at this secondary school that shaming the kids is how they get results.

They also positively shame......by plastering the kids pictures' on a board in the middle of the playground if they've done well.
DD hates the photo they have of her and doesn't want such overt praise. She just wants a well done every now and again.

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Verbena37 · 16/11/2016 22:22

i class it as data protection because it's giving a percentage figure
It is information that is published to only me at the end of each term (and no DS isn't off that often). For that reason, along with the fact it's divisive, I'm going to ask the teacher to remove it.

DD in yr 10 at same school doesn't have it.

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BratFarrarsPony · 16/11/2016 22:20

" ."Jimmy your attendance is 87% but I know you have a reason for it ". "

why on earth would you say that in front of the class?
I just dont get it.
It honestly seems that the most inconsiderate people are drawn to teaching , it really does...

exLtEveDallas · 16/11/2016 22:18

At DDs primary there was a weekly attendance assembly. Every Friday the year with the best attendance won a 'step' on the attendance ladder. At the end of the year the class with the most 'steps' won a prize for each child.

3 years running DDs class didn't get a single step - most weeks they had the worst attendance, sometimes they did as well as third (7 Year groups), they never had a week of 100%, the best they did (IIRC) was about 90%. They all knew why.... and it wasn't the child with the chronic illness.

PberryT · 16/11/2016 22:18

Brat we know about ongoing conditions so would say something like."Jimmy your attendance is 87% but I know you have a reason for it ".

Same with glandular fever (usually requires a long spell of time off). Which if coded medical will show separately on records.

Miss the bus round here and you get picked up by school minibus so no excuses there.

bloodyteenagers · 16/11/2016 22:17

I'm not there. There is no clone in my place. So everyone in that room knows I am not there. Hardly confidential. The only way this would be confidential is if on the poster or whatever - 16/11 teens absent because hangover.

JohnLapsleyParlabane · 16/11/2016 22:17

When I worked in a school a couple of years ago one of my weekly tasks was to update the attendance notice boards. Every single student was named and colour coded (Green for +95% etc) . I hated it. So unfair for those who have chronic conditions.

BratFarrarsPony · 16/11/2016 22:17

so what if they are 'often known' to the other children? Confused
How does that mean that they should be further shamed?

ReallyTired · 16/11/2016 22:17

A poster in a class room displays attendence info to every child who had a lesson in that classroom. I think it's shit. Fred in year 10 does not need to know that his neighbour Percy in year 7 is a school refuser.

My son perpetually skips registration. I have no idea if they read out his attendence/ punctuality figures.

Verbena37 · 16/11/2016 22:16

That's how I feel......it's shaming and dividing children. How is it inclusive in any way whatsoever?
DS actually has a friend that gets bullied because he is off due to medical issues. This ladder just exacerbates the issue.

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ITCouldBeWorse · 16/11/2016 22:15

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pyjamasonbananas · 16/11/2016 22:15

mine would always be able to tell me who was in and who wasn't on any particular day (tho, obviously, this isn't a major topic of conversation!)

I hate these sort of reward charts for good health; HOWEVER I don't think there's any data protection issue here.

Wolfiefan · 16/11/2016 22:15

They may not record it OP but they most certainly notice absence (amount of and any pattern.)
Wouldn't want whole name and picture displayed if room ever let out to general public eg in the evening?
Does your child have a lot of absence?

MakeMyWineADouble · 16/11/2016 22:15

I don't think it's confidential information if your child isn't in school the class will know. Giving out the reasons why people were off would be the breach. Seems similiar to the rewards for 100% attendance and that! personally not a big fan of either method! If some one is ill they are ill and shouldn't be punished but it seems to be they way things are done now.

BratFarrarsPony · 16/11/2016 22:13

" BUT a lot of the time at secondary the kids aren't ill, "

and a lot of the time they are...

they have (for example) doctors appointments miles away for ongoing conditions or they suffer from glandular fever (to name just two that i know of). or they miss the school bus and their parents cannot afford a car.

Why should these people be shamed in front of the class?

NicknameUsed · 16/11/2016 22:13

"Err I'm pretty sure it's confidential information about my child?"

How can it be? If your son is off school people will notice.

I hate this focus on attendance. DD has had periods of illness and hospital stays that she has had no control over. She isn't allowed to "pull a sickie" in our house.

Schools should be focusing on persistent truancy, not penalising children who don't enjoy good health.

Verbena37 · 16/11/2016 22:12

How is it already public information? Exactly?
Unless you're thinking that the kids sit there with their own piece of paper under the desk recording who is off on which day?

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exLtEveDallas · 16/11/2016 22:12

How is it confidential that your child isn't there - the kids can see it with their own eyes Confused