Attendance Poster On Classroom Wall

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Thank you fourcorneredcircle for your wxtremely helpful and informative post-as a secondary teacher I had never heard of that (rarely have TAs in my classes for example but do have to follow the correct frameworks to support all the pupils that I teach ) and I haven't had good experiences with the actual Teach First training scheme as a mentor for it, so that relieves me!

Quality First Teaching (slight misnomer in Verbena's post).

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It's an expression used to talk about quality teaching - but it's a phrase mainly used in primary schools. Certainly that's where most of the research has been done. Basically, it describes good teaching.

Since 84% of schools are good or better (citation www.gov.uk/government/news/record-number-of-pupils-in-good-or-outstanding-schools) most teachers are working in that way, even if they don't recognise the term. Yay!

It's quite often talked about in SEN provision in mainstream when we talk about teachers being ultimately responsible for children's progress, Not TAs. And it's part of the justification that teachers should be differentiating their resources, methods etc.

I think the terminology and research has slipped by secondary for the most part as because TAs/teachers don't work in the same way (I.e they don't work together a lot, and TAs aren't as involved in the planning of lesson etc. Due to the nature of changing classes and students throughout the day) secondary teachers have to tailor their resources etc. As part of their planning and have been less reliant than perhaps primary was in the past on TAs being able to do that.

Most teachers are doing it without realising :)

Exactly piece.

Sweeping generalisations are unfair and not called for.

As an aside I've never heard of the Teach First ethos.

Perhaps some of my secondary ed. posts are negative because of the often insensitive way mainstream secondary teachers (who are supposed to treat every child with SEN equally and are supposed to teach within the Teach First ethos) aren't actually being inclusive in their teaching

I think it is your sweeping statements that wind everybody up.

Hi, just came on to add that I too, like fourcorneredcircle, seem to find myself constantly opening threads complaining about schools, written by you OP.

And yes, it is hilarious to still think that teachers can just walk into an SLT meeting and tell them they disagree with a policy!!!

And as I teach various aspects about the Data Protection Act, I can assure you that your DS's Form Tutor is not contravening any of the 8 principles, even if he is using percentages. Sorry.

Do your children know that you constantly complain to their schools? I only ask if that is why your DS taking photos of an attendance notice board because he knows you will kick up a fuss?

Apologies for the very poor English in my post - trying to watch TV whilst posting and paying attention to DS!

I thought the suggestion that a classroom teacher could toddle along to an SLT meeting and tell them that their policy was rubbish was quite funny.

That's an understatement Noble! More like crying with laughter funny!

Op - with all due respect as PP have said have not understood the issues

1. It is not breaking any aspect of the DP act - attendance is very much noticed by peers so no confidential information is being divulged

1. Teachers have no power over SLT policies which in turn are influenced by OFSTED's latest issues

Ours has the whole school attendance for each child in an area where all kids can see it.

I don't think it is a bad idea. As others have said, good attendance is a life skill, and will significantly impact on their achievement.

I thought the suggestion that a classroom teacher could toddle along to an SLT meeting and tell them that their policy was rubbish was quite funny.

he took a photo of it on the display board today to show me

What's he doing using his phone in school?

I'm secondary so wouldn't have a poster. But I'll 2nd what some other posters say.

Few year back there was a student who said it was unfair that others in the class were commenting that he's off lots. It's not unfair when he delighted in bragging about being off.
I've had children with medical issues and they were always discounted from whole group competitions (so not to pull the group down) and peers were very understanding.
Kids notice who's in/not in. I don't think the poster makes much difference (even if it's not something I would personally want to do).

Primary and secondary are worlds apart, and what a parent experiences as a volunteer reader/library helped/music helper etc. is very different to the actual realities of working in a school.

Please don't kid yourself that working in a SEN school or independent is any freer of the frustrations that day to day bring. Or that they are some lovely world without the confines of prescribed actions for teachers.

You need some proper experience shadowing teachers for a couple of weeks. Attending their training, meetings etc. And sitting in a classroom seeing the hundreds of decisions they make for every 30 minutes of teaching.

My initial suggestion was that if you still want to work in schools you need to get in to them and see the reality of working there, what actually goes in to a school day and the fact that for the most part teachers are just doing their jobs to the best of their ability and following the instructions given to them by those higher up.

I still stand by that.

"Totally fuming, is this normal?" (Therefore allowing for correction if indeed yes, it is)
"Surely this is breaking the Data protection act" perhaps you could have tried "is this breaking the data protection act?"(I think this is one of the most misunderstood and maligned concepts ever, except perhaps political correctness)
Why would the school think this was acceptable - if you ask a question prepare to be answered... even if you still disagree, you asked it.

Erm, yes... if I found myself on a thread where say nurses or waiters were being attacked for decisions beyond their control, I'd speak up for them too.

I have also returned meals in restaurants to chefs and spoken to PALS when hospital care was less than satisfactory. Because ultimately, with the issues I was having they were in a much better position to fix it than the person carrying out their job to the best of their instruction.

I'm not saying you don't post else where or that you shouldn't post. I'm just saying that often your posts become teacher bashing when in fact your issues are with policies or management and should be aimed at the school in question. It's not hard to remember your posts when I come across them as they are always so negative - be they in education or AIBU (I possibly remember your name in particular because my mum drinks Verbena tea which is quite unusual). I had no idea you had a son with ASD until you mentioned it as I didn't search, I just remember. If you have so many wonderful friends/family in education perhaps you should ask their opinion rather than the anonymous internet. Since they would understand why a particular issue might affect you more than a panel of strangers.

The entire tone of your OP was inflammatory. If you want to ask for help or advice might I suggest a more neutral mode of expression?

You have been told by a whole series of posters that this is normal (that doesn't mean you can't disagree with it, or request that your child is withdrawn from the process) and that attendance is not a data protection issue as children can see whether their class mates are absent or not. It has been explained to you repeatedly by people who actually work in schools that a large percentage of teenagers who are absent in fact have no real reason to be and that schools are sympathetic re: illness and medical conditions etc.

You have drawn a seperate issue in to bolster your ire (the fact that your DD does not like the way school celebrates achievement) again which should be dealt with by you contacting the school in question. Some children might not like it, and that's fine. Some others do and deserve to be recognised in a way that celebrates their successes.

Verbena I'm not sure if you are still considering working as a TA of cover supervisor, or heck, geography teacher but in August I followed your thread in "the staffroom" asking about whether you needed some in school experience. If you are, please do try and spend some time in schools. The more I read of your posts (Y10 music trip panic, Uniform cost, gel pen fiasco, y7 rugby) the more I realise that you don't understand that teachers aren't out personally to offend, injure, endanger or attack your children. Every single post you make about education/schools seems to attack the teachers in some way or another. Teachers are just doing their job, and most of them are doing it very well. Most of your issues should be raised with the SLT of your children's schools if you have concerns who will either allay your fears or more likely give you more amunition. Please, please stop posting on mumsnet posts which blame teachers. It doesn't solve your problems with the schools and feeds in to the negative culture of "faceless" teacher bashing that is causing so many professionals to leave their careers.

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