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BTECs at college - Support thread 2

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TeenAndTween · 19/08/2016 11:45

Following on from the 2015 thread to inform and support each other through the ups and downs of BTECs. Mainly aimed at y12/13 level, but BTECs alongside GCSEs more than welcome too. Plus anyone just considering BTECs and wanting information.

What I learned last year:

You have to hit the ground running as the very first piece of work may well count towards your final grade

DD's course has 3 options like this.

Subsidiary Diploma - 9 units (1 year, 9 units (5 units, then 4 more))
Diploma - 12 units total (2 year, 6 units each year)
Extended Diploma 18 units total (2 year, 9 units each year, 5 in first half of year, 4 in second half)

DD is doing the Diploma (2 A level equivalent), but the college ensures that they do all the 4 'compulsory' units in the first year so if someone drops out they can still qualify for the Subsidiary Diploma (1 A level equivalent?).

You pretty much have to pass every single unit in order to pass the whole thing. There are limited opportunities to re-submit, but there are some. The Pass criteria for DD's course are quite straightforward (if you can structure things properly which DD struggles with). The Merit criteria are harder, and the Distinction criteria need a good level of analysis (that DD doesn't have).

Each unit is made up of a number of Pass, Merit and Distinction criteria. To reach each level you have to meet all the criteria at that level. So if on your first assignment for a unit you miss a Merit criteria, you can't get higher than a pass for the unit (as far as I understand).

Each unit gives you a number of Points. For DD mainly it is 70 for a pass, 80 for a Merit and 90 for a Distinction. To Pass the whole thing she would need 12x70 points - 840, equivalent to EE A level grades. To get CC equivalent she needs 920 minimum. To get AA she would need 1000 points.

DD has up to 3 teachers at any time, each teaching a unit. They teach a bit, and then set an assignment. For a week or 2 they don't teach in some lessons and they use the time to get on with the assignment. Then more teaching and second assignment. Around 4 assignments per unit.

What you don't have to do is 'extra' exam practice, question practice etc. So all work is pretty much set. The students don't have to work out extras. (However exactly what is required for some criteria is about as clear as mud, and DD seems to get little/no feedback on assignments to help her improve for future ones. Sometimes there seem to be implicit requirements that DD doesn't catch on about.)

Disclaimer. I don't know if all BTECs are like DD's !

A couple of useful tables for reference:

Table showing UCAS points

A level equivalent UCAS

And finally the Pearson BTEC site from where you can find specs, unit descriptions, and pass/merit/distinction criteria.

(Praying for less of a roller-coaster this year).

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Draylon · 07/09/2016 21:57

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eatyourveg · 07/09/2016 21:22

Draylon Do you know about this? Its a free phone app and is basically an organiser in your phone, you put your timetable in, can set up alarms for getting to classrooms or add when homework is due etc etc

We tell all our students about it during induction as its free!

TeenAndTween · 07/09/2016 19:32

DD1 doesn't start second year until Monday.

She is learning to drive with DH, and braved Southampton for the first time today including some of the larger roundabouts. Draylon and anyone else nearby, I suggest you stay clear of the roads! Grin

(DD2 started secondary today which went OK, but only y7s in, so tomorrow may be a bit more scary).

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GasLightShining · 04/09/2016 17:29

My niece did a child care course and it was three days at college and two days work placement. I imagine that most courses won't have this. Assignments will need to be completed during their 'free time'.

Of course there is also time to get a part-time job too.

FozzieMK · 03/09/2016 17:33

My DD's college posted end of year dates on their calendar and I went ahead and booked a holiday straight after in her first year. What nobody told us was that there were workshops being held after this date for late assignment submissions! Luckily she managed to get all hers done in time or I would've had to change the holiday dates. I used to allow a couple of weeks after the publicised dates after that!

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 02/09/2016 19:45

I think DS's course is sorted. Very confusing system, though. Different codes for courses and finance, but almost identical.

His timetable is very sparse, only 11 hours of lessons, 1 1/4 directed study, 1 1/4 hours of individual tutorial. Starts at 12 on 2 days and Tuesday completely free.

He finishes on 23rd June, according to his enrolment form. Lucky boy! I shan't be booking a holiday, though as DS3 is in Y10 and I work in a school.

Will any of your DC have to do course related work experience? DS will at some point. He'll need support, though.

TeenAndTween · 02/09/2016 18:36

Draylon possibly, but possibly not.

It might be the day for the last lesson, but some assignments still due in.

It might be the date all assignments expected in, but rework (referrals) still possible.

I would check before booking a holiday!

Good news mothermay

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Draylon · 02/09/2016 15:53

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pleasemothermay1 · 02/09/2016 15:30

Guess what eveyone

He got the job

Working the check out at a well know supermarket every little helps

He starts his induction tomorrow two evenings a week Friday and Saturday

Whoop whoop this is defiantly a parenting win after months of fighting about his lack lustre searching for a job.

Draylon · 02/09/2016 15:17

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user1471516728 · 02/09/2016 10:39

Hi Pleasemother
Mine is doing level 2 engineering. He needs an overall (like a navy lab coat) and safety boots, we went to enroll yesterday and they had a local supplier on hand with coats to try on and leaflets for their website where you can order both boots and coats. At least I know I've ordered the right ones that the college has approved. I would imagine your college will probably do something similar.

Draylon · 01/09/2016 20:50

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Parky04 · 01/09/2016 19:41

My DS is attending College 5 days a week 8.30 to 16.30. He has to wear a suit and tie as well! At least he will be well prepared for when he starts work!

He enrolled on Tuesday and can't wait to get started. He is just delighted that he can study a subject he really enjoys and doesn't have to study any of the sciences ever again!!

TeenAndTween · 01/09/2016 19:20

Hi please Most of us here have DCs doing BTECs, nice to have you join us. Any questions please ask and we'll try to help.

DD won't get her timetable until some time next week. She is likely to have one day per week when she doesn't need to go in, but I hope the rest is sensible. Last year she went in for 1 lesson only on one day and half a lesson on another! Should be better this year now she is doing a more standard option.

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pleasemothermay1 · 01/09/2016 18:50

Ha my son has job interview tomorrow for a supermarket two evenings a week hopefully he gets it

pleasemothermay1 · 01/09/2016 18:29

Any ones child doing a BETEC mine is doing level 3 engeerining at collage

Will he be neededing safety boots for the practical

He will be studying areonautical , eletroniocs and General engeerining they have a small plane in the hanger and the general engeering room is like a hi tech factory floor

He's got all his stuff for the written work and do you think he should be looking for a job near home or Collage do you think

Draylon · 01/09/2016 16:13

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 01/09/2016 15:24

Draylon, I went with DS and still couldn't think of anything to ask. Maybe what are they supposed to do in their 'free' time. There seems to be a lot. First lesson at 11.50am on 2 days. Should they go in earlier and work or can they rock up at 11.49? I know what DS would prefer!

It sounds like his course has been corrected but student services couldn't tell me if his timetable had changed. They couldn't produce a new one or email it to us. Oh well...

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 31/08/2016 19:46

Well, enrolment today at college and already a minor cock up. Enrolment took nearly 2 hours with 10 different steps, 10 different people to see with their computers and paperwork. All going swimmingly until finance people who booked him into a subsidiary diploma rather than a diploma. Stupidly I didn't notice until I got home, too much paperwork. DS has ASD and an EHCP and wouldn't have noticed if they'd been in fancy dress!

So he's got a timetable, which just says level 3 software development, but that could be the subsidiary diploma or the regular one. I've no idea if the timetable is right now. He should be staring on Wed next week but I'm back at work by then.

It all seems quite minor and I'm sure we'll get it sorted but he needs this major transition to go smoothly. Now he's stressing that he's on the wrong course and he doesn't know when he's supposed to start or his timetable. Even the fees are different.

I have rung them but the student support lady who answered couldn't sort it and someone was going to ring me back and didn't. I go back to work tomorrow. I work in a school and it's pretty full on all day and I can't get time off, especially in September. I've just had 5 weeks off! Aargh.

I hope this isn't the start of how it's going to be...

GasLightShining · 31/08/2016 07:59

Thanks eat

eatyourveg · 30/08/2016 08:36

Sorry to hear about the English Gas he does at least have the L2 FS which should suffice with any future employer and of course it will be his degree that they will be interested in if he is going to head for a career in the industry

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