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Induction day-school has forgotten my daughters existence!

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user1468352691 · 12/07/2016 21:07

My DD had a terrible induction day. Her primary school class walked up to the high school, lined up in the playground then the form tutors came out and took the children who were going to be in their class. DD was excited as we had been told that she'd be in the same form as all of her friends, but then the form tutor didn't have her name on his list, and neither did any of the other form tutors.

Someone at the school made a terrible cock-up and even though we had it confirmed many times that my daughter had a place at the school, the school apparently have no record of it, despite the fact the school emailed us themselves in June.

She was then sent to sit in a year 8 class (the school couldn't find anywhere else to put her for the day) , she said these year 8's would ask her who she was and taunt her. After sitting in her first class with these year 8's, no staff came to collect her so she had to walk around the school in tears trying to find the main reception area. Then, for the rest of the day she was sat in reception doing text book work because none of the staff knew what to do with her. The primary school grouped back up and walked back down, it wasn't until I went to pick her up when I found out, as her teacher wanted to "have a word" with me. I'm absolutely fuming. DD started crying in the car on the way back so I made her some hot chocolate, we had a cuddle and I told her we'd sort it but I don't know what to do. I'm having doubts about sending her to this school after this.

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BackforGood · 14/07/2016 23:25

So, OP, what happened today?

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 13/07/2016 20:44

When I did transition, we visited the primary schools and checked with the staff against our lists. They weren't put into tutor groups at that time and we emphasised that the group they were with on that day would not be the tutor group in September.

All the induction children were brought either by their parents, or under their own steam. The Year 6 teachers would be needed at their own school for their own induction.

I'm wondering if something has gone amiss during the application process and the OP, having moved, thought it was cut and dried when it wasn't.

If we had had a child there whose name didn't appear on any list, we'd be contacting the primary school and/ or admissions. We wouldn't have left a child adrift all day either. If nothing was resolved, we'd have contacted a parent and tried to find out what had happened.

lifesalongsong · 13/07/2016 20:29

I have never accepted a school place, in my area they assume you're coming unless you say otherwise - maybe it's the same in the OP's LA.

You get an email saying you've got a place and then you start getting transfer information from the secondary school. Did your DD try to contact you during the day to try and get it sorted out there and then? Like others I just can't imagine a school putting an extra year 7 child in with a year 8 class, surely that's a totally bonkers thing to do.

LockedOutOfMN · 13/07/2016 20:25

Snowy Agree with everything you've said but then could the school not have asked the OP's daughter for her parents' contact details and then phoned to explain that she had turned up at the induction day and doesn't actually have a place at the school? It is odd that they "kept" her all day if they believed there was no reason for her to be there.

snowy508601 · 13/07/2016 20:10

Have the new school sent you a form asking for contact details?They would definitely have don this if they were expecting her for induction day.
To be brutal I don't think she has a place.The reason I suspect why they didn't let her in with the other induction children is so that you didn't use this as ammunition in a potential appeal.If they had had your contact details they would surely have rung you up to find out what the heck she was doing there.

BerriesandLeaves · 13/07/2016 20:07

I didn't think primary school teachers stay at the school on induction day do they? Ours met with their new class back at primary school. They did meet with the secondary teacher in charge of transition, but that was at the primary school on another day.

Redlocks28 · 13/07/2016 19:44

I can't imagine how this happened. Too many questions!

When your daughter was still left after the others had been put into a class, where were the staff who walked them up from the primary school?

What does the email say that you got in June?

What did you reply to it?

Have you received and returned paperwork from the school/filling in contact details/consent forms/health forms etc?

If this actually happened, they sound full and your child has no place for September but I can't imagine how you would think they had a place?

LockedOutOfMN · 13/07/2016 19:36

As a teacher and recent Year 7 tutor I am so sad to hear this. I know your daughter will be very upset. I would mention it to her primary school teacher(s), so that they can be sensitive when talking about secondary school transition now.

As others have said, I can't imagine what the school was thinking, either add her to another group while working out which group she will actually be in come September or, if they didn't think she should be there, phone you to collect her or discuss. However, my saying this now won't help the situation. I hope, at the least, the school can confirm that she does have a place and which tutor group she will be in (then possibly you could take her back one day after school to meet her new tutor?)

Therealloislane · 13/07/2016 17:36

Op did you call the school today?

leccybill · 13/07/2016 17:22

I thought it sounded unlikely. Thrown in with Yr 8, given textbook to work from.in reception, left to roam the site- there's just no way any of this could have happened.

If the primary teacher was on site, they'd have been the first to know and take action. Then, they'd have phoned you.

BackforGood · 13/07/2016 16:09

This just sounds highly unlikely all round.
If a child turned up without a place (or so it appeared from school records) then the options would be

  1. Keep her with her friends whilst someone from the office tried to contact you or schools admissions to try to establish why she was there
  2. Take her to the office to do the same
  3. If I've read it right you say they took them up altogether fro Primary school ? In which case the teacher from Primary would also have dealt with it.

I just find it very difficult to believe what has been reported to you - it makes no sense at all.

BoGrainger · 13/07/2016 15:59

I don't understand why they didn't get someone from the primary school to come and get her if they weren't prepared to help sensibly

BerriesandLeaves · 13/07/2016 07:47

I hope you get a place on the waiting list as it does sound as if your dd doesn't actually have a place there at the moment.

MustStopAndThinkBeforePosting · 13/07/2016 07:14

If all the induction classes were full it sounds very much as if the place your DD was offered has been filled by a different child. It may take a while to sort this out. I hope your DD is OK that sounds like a miserable day.

lougle · 13/07/2016 06:59

"Someone at the school made a terrible cock-up and even though we had it confirmed many times that my daughter had a place at the school, the school apparently have no record of it, despite the fact the school emailed us themselves in June....@admission There was a lot of upheaval in our lives at that time, we were living in a different LA and then after I got divorced we ended up moving and so subsequently decided that the school DD was originally going to go to was too far. We eventually got her in at this one (or so I thought"

So did you accept the place that was offered, formally? Because you have to accept the place for it to be confirmed.

bloodyteenagers · 13/07/2016 00:05

What did the email exactly say?
Have you had paperwork through your door? Your child needs to bring this letter and x,y and z with them.

BusyNothings · 12/07/2016 23:38

That's absolutely disgusting. Serious grounds to challenge the high school here. Firstly why couldn't she be fitted in with her peers is rubbish. I work in a college and we've just had our new student day for nearly 2000 kids and we managed to fit in any late comers or issues for a primary school aged kid to go through that is awful no excuse. Also definitely serious safeguarding issues with her being left to wander and then work in reception.

If the school isn't tripping over themselves tomorrow I'd be taking it further.

Hope your little girl is okay and it hasn't put her off high school Flowers

AndNowItsSeven · 12/07/2016 23:11

Are you sure you confirmed to offer of a place in June? What does the email say? Check your sent box.

BerriesandLeaves · 12/07/2016 23:07

What did the email you got from them in June say? Have you had any paperwork from them? Your poor dd.

Arkwright · 12/07/2016 22:45

That is awful, your poor Dd. If you can I would go to the school in the morning.

Wolfiefan · 12/07/2016 22:07

Your poor child. Yes call the school ASAP. So stressful.

user1468352691 · 12/07/2016 22:05

@Wolfiefan

I honestly have no idea what is going to happen in September. I'm going to ring the school tomorrow. Several people told me that if my daughter ends up without a school place because of this then I have very good grounds to appeal a place, but I'm hoping it doesn't come to that. I just want it sorted.

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Lilly948204 · 12/07/2016 22:01

It's very like a business, I know I'm a teacher, I just thought that was a strange attitude of the OP. We certainly aren't trying to impress year 7s on transition day, it is about them getting used to the school expectations and environment, not being impressed. Maybe on open evening yes, but not transition day.

The school was disgraceful in their behaviour, I would have just put her in with one of the year 7 groups and sorted it out later - or even better called the OP during the day to try and sort the confusion.

Wolfiefan · 12/07/2016 22:00

Have the school confirmed she has a place? If all induction classes were too full to add her to then surely Y7 will be full in September?

user1468352691 · 12/07/2016 22:00

@lilly948204

My wording came across slightly wrong, but of course they do want to come across as good, so they try very hard with the new year 7's. The schools around here do anyway. This school was in special measures a few years ago and has been desperately trying to improve since then. There is also an "outstanding" ofsted rated school nearby that I couldn't get DD into, from what I've heard from some people, it seems like there is a big rivalry with the two schools.

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