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Exclusion from secondary school

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parentgov1 · 13/05/2016 14:55

Headteachers seem to have to much power to exclude with governors often supporting and Independent Review panels not able to reinstate. Schools and their leadership do not seem to recognise that if you address needs and get education right this may lead to improved behaviour,they focus too much on behaviour policies (often excessively even when not working) and not need/education. Schools don't seem to look at themselves enough to see if they have made mistakes and how provision could be improved instead they blame the child. If they can get it right for the most challenging child and saw it as an opportunity it would benefit the school. Would be interested to hear from other parents with similar concerns.

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Wolfiefan · 13/05/2016 16:44

So a journo then?

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parentgov1 · 13/05/2016 16:43

if you have success at the IRP this does not reinstate a child and the school can still decide to maintain exclusion and instead face what in their budget terms is a small fine, rather than admit they may have been wrong, it is then potentially 20weeks in a tribunal process to overturn the schools decision and reinstate

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Wolfiefan · 13/05/2016 16:42

SEN isn't overlooked. Schools need to prioritise the safety and learning of ALL students. They can't keep students in school who stop others learning or are violent.
Have you had a child excluded? Why?
Or are you a journalist? Hmm

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parentgov1 · 13/05/2016 16:41

I think since 2014 and the pressure on results and focus on results/budgets that School forget it is about the child

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parentgov1 · 13/05/2016 16:39

there isn't enough challenge at the time of exclusion and matters such as SEN which should be being looked at get overlooked, it should be more about inclusion and it would make sense for schools to have an inclusion panel to make sure that the reasons for exclusion have been made clear and are valid but also that all other strands of thinking have taken place, safety, SEN etc, this should be taken before a school excludes

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OddBoots · 13/05/2016 16:35

I do believe is should be compulsory for there to be an Ed Psyc review done before a permanent exclusion, at the point the school think there is a risk of PEX if possible.

Other than that it depends on the reason for exclusion, if a child makes the school unsafe for other students and staff then there is no alternative but exclusion but for disruption that isn't violent should be controlled with other measures in the first instance.

Wolfiefan · 13/05/2016 16:33

Schools don't exclude unless there is a pattern of poor behaviour or something really outrageous happens. It never happens out of the blue.
Sadly mainstream education can't cope with all children. In a class of 30 (and with limited) TA support there's a limit to what can be done.

meditrina · 13/05/2016 16:31

do you have a proposal for what the system should be?

noblegiraffe · 13/05/2016 16:31

The more usual complaint is that it is too difficult for schools to exclude disruptive pupils and even when they do the decision can be overturned.

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 13/05/2016 16:28

What would improve the provision for you? What would need to change in the school to make it possible for the child to remain, in your view?

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