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Co-ed Boarding schools starting at 13+

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boardingdilemma · 10/05/2016 23:09

My daughter is currently at a standalone prep, so we need to find a senior school for her when she finishes there (must be full boarding).

We would ideally like to keep her in the South-West (Wilts/Dorset/Hampshire/North Somerset), but would consider further afield, as we feel quite limited with where she can go. She won't consider single-sex, and is adamant she doesn't want to go somewhere that has its own prep school.

Her first choice is Marlborough, and I think she stands a good chance of getting in, but certainly can't bank on it with it being so oversubscribed for girls. We've visited one other school in Somerset, and have two more scheduled to visit.

So, basically, we're after: full boarding, co-ed, no prep, starts at year 9, south west.

TIA.

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Dancingdreamer · 11/05/2016 22:27

Bromsgrove has a prep whose pupils all largely transfer into the seniors. Lots of day pupils join at 11. It's not really a full boarding school - only about one third full board and they are mainly the international students. The rest are split between day and weekly boarders.

It does however seem a very happy school with grounded children and locally has a reputation for being "on the up" under the (relatively) new head.

Pythonesque · 11/05/2016 22:04

Do consider looking at Cheltenham, I suspect it might be of interest. I think their prep provides no more than 50% of their year 9 intake, and they get mixed up in the boarding houses. With regards to weekly boarding - they have lessons Saturday morning and I understand they are expected to stay in at least 50% of weekends. (at least that's what the head told me when explaining how much more we'd be able to have our daughter home compared with choirschool!)

Happygardening with a daughter in year 8 and a son in year 6 I get the impression that long lead times are more critical for boys than girls, though I admit we missed looking at Marlborough in the end because having wondered about visiting I then decided that no I wanted my daughter home for senior ... she has since twisted my arm!

sendsummer · 11/05/2016 22:02

iCoriander if you are dependent on fee reduction then it sounds as though you would be wise to cast your net wider and apply for several. It all depends on how much you need and whether your family fit into one of the special fee reduction categories that schools like Marlborough have
I have heard that Cheltenham college has generous scholarships including for sport and allrounders of up to 25% (BTW although it has flexible boarding, friends say that Cheltenham college is very much a full boarding week). Otherwise at most other schools you would almost certainly need a bursary.

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SoGodhelpme · 11/05/2016 20:21

Also, Rugby school through their dedicated 'Arnold Foundation', are very pro supporting students needing financial help. I don't know exact numbers but they have quite a number of bursaries they give out every year and are always working towards attracting bright students who may not have been able to afford it.

boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 19:31

I like the look of Teddie's but doesn't look like there's much scope for discounts or bursaries, which would probably rule it out.

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boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 17:31

She's already been boarding through prep, and is a very popular girl, so no problem with making friends.

I think there have probably been some issues with having had a change of Head. He only started last term, and the DH had been filling in for the term previous to that until he arrived.

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happygardening · 11/05/2016 16:58

I'm very surprised you're DD is in yr 6 and your head hasn't spoken to you about senior schools.
Even if there's an attached prep e.g.Junior KIngs (and not all go on to KIngs) the max number if 30-40 girls and boys the schools you're mentioning are taking 130+ at every year so spread round all the boarding houses I really don't see it would be a problem. Friendship groups change when you're boarding unless your DD is not very good at making friend in which case I doubt she'd be a good candidate for boarding.

boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 16:20

LIZS, the only one I've found so far that we're too late for, is Wellington. We've registered with MC, which is the most popular one we're considering.

sendsummer, thank you - good advice. I'll take a look at St Edwards, can't remember why I discounted it before.

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sendsummer · 11/05/2016 16:15

From your requirements (distance, full boarding timetable, coed and no prep school) I would shortlist Malborough and St Edwards. Rugby and Shrewsbury would also be good choices but a bit further.
Your DD must realise though that in any senior school even if there is no attached prep school there will always be several preformed groups who come from particular prep schools, especially from the larger or closer prep schools (Bilton Grange for Rugby or the Dragon for St Edwards and Malborough). By year 9 DCs are keen for fresh faces, new friends and moving on from their prep school so I am not sure that I would have 'the no attached prep' as an absolute criteria if the school was otherwise right and had a large intake from other prep schools.

LIZS · 11/05/2016 16:13

Y6 is really late for this. We were talking with Smt from y4 to start the process. So many 13+ intakes require registration and in some cases pretest in y6 or early y7.

boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 16:09

I just realised why I'd previously discounted Shrewsbury; the fact that girls have only recently been introduced...

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boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 16:05

We're too late for Wellington; you can only now register for 2019 entry.

Shrewsbury, I think we need to have a look at. It's been mentioned to me before. We're not too far from there at the moment, so a visit would be easy.

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boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 16:02

LIZS, I think you're right about me giving her too much say on choice. She just doesn't want to go to a school where the majority have known each other all through school. I'm sure anywhere with a decent intake at 13+ would be fine, really.

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boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 15:58

happygardening, I've heard the same about Bryanston and had originally discounted it for that reason. Having ended up with a shortlist of only 2 to visit, I added it back on!

By integrated, I just mean they can walk into town for coffee (one of the girls' houses is on the high street) and they are involved in community work with local schools etc.

She's 11 (year 6)... would you have expected the head to have individually spoken to parents with recommendations?

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mary21 · 11/05/2016 15:13

Shrewsbury?

SoGodhelpme · 11/05/2016 15:06

Rugby school is in the centre of town. They have lots of links and the students do lots of community service within the town. Some students do community service in the local state schools teaching show how to use a musical instrument or other extra curricular, some go to old people's homes to serve tea etc lots of various charitable projects to do with the town.

Some people on MN have complained about the town that it's not 'pretty', or hasn't got enough naice shops. Personally, it looks to me no worse than any other bog standard town. My interest lies with the school not the town as I'm not planning on moving there.
We've taken DS out before within Rugby and there was more than enough to while away time, it all depends what you're looking for. If you're looking for a nice seaside touristy place with lots of quaint coffee shops, then Rugby is not it. But I'd never discount a fab school because of the town unless it's inaccessible.

happygardening · 11/05/2016 13:39

Not sure there are many full boarders at Wellington.

LIZS · 11/05/2016 13:36

What is her objection to those with a prep or 11+ entry? I wonder if you are giving her too much influence on choice based on some insecurity about settling or making friends. Presumably she is only 8/9/10 atm and she may find things change when others leave or join at y7. Wellington might be worth a look?

happygardening · 11/05/2016 13:30

I'm surprised your prep head hasnt recommended anywhere, what year is she?
A friend removed her DC from Bryanston 2 years ago because despite the claim on their website she said it most definitely isn't a full barding school.
Ditto Canford another friend choose it (and is really happy with it) because it wasn't full boarding!

Have you ever been to Rugby?! It definitely isn't another Marlborough. Im not sure I would say that MC is "integrated" into the town, although its a huge employer in the area, the pupils are quite restricted as to where they can go (least they were might have changed with the current head and now one of the deputies is going or even gone). The locals do talk about a "town and gown".

boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 12:31

The prep she's at does get a bit quiet on weekends, but she's never there - she manages to get invited out by different friends every week, except exeats when I pick her up.

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boardingdilemma · 11/05/2016 12:30

SoGodhelpme, sorry I didn't mean Rugby was only 11+ entry, I just didn't realise it started before 13+. Thanks for the info though, good to hear that 13+ is the main entry. We are definitely going to visit. Is the town close enough to walk? Is it a decent town? Perfect scenario is a school integrated into the town (eg MC).

LIZS, Millfield is ruled out by having a prep. She also plays matches there and isn't too keen.

MrsMargaretHale, I may try to fit a visit in to Sherborne; for me, that is the ideal situation - boys and girls who come together for lots of things but separate for lessons. She however, is not keen (she's a fussy one!). She knows the school from matches and visiting friends.

Crumpet, Cheltenham sounds fab to me. Unfortunately, ruled out again by having a prep.

Mary21, KSB is the other school we've visited so far. We really liked it, but were so disappointed by the lack of a swimming pool. There also didn't seem to be much of a push on academics (I may be wrong though).

happygardening, disappointingly, we haven't had suggestions from her head yet (I'm hoping it's coming soon). Her tutors recommended MC, Bryanston & Canford (ruled out for too many day/weekly boarders). We will look at Bryanston though.

I should say, she's very sporty and quite academic (top set in all subjects of a high performing prep).

Thanks for all your help so far.

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happygardening · 11/05/2016 11:47

Cheltenham is primarily weekly boarding.
Your option are limited OP if you want proper full boarding, as you say Marlborough ticks all your boxes.
Where is your head suggesting?
Sherborne is one of those diamond schools I think, and the boys school is in the same town?

There are very few proper full boarding schools left, I would scrutinise the number of full boarders very carefully (schools are notoriously economical with the truth when it comes to this as they want your money) if you're looking at anywhere that offers a mixture of full weekly and even worse flexi boarding. The ISI reports seem to classify weekly boarding as full boarding so do be careful if your reading those. The commonest reason I hear friends grumble and moan about their schools is because they wanted full boarding and having sent their DC's there they discovered the vast majority go home every weekend and their DC is either on their own with a handful of others or they're driving back and fourth to the school every weekend to pick their DC up.

mary21 · 11/05/2016 10:29

Kings Bruton?? don't know how many full boarders. Only know it because ds stayed in one of the boarding houses while at mill on the brue

crumpet · 11/05/2016 09:34

My friends have been very happy with Cheltenham

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