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I don't want my dd to do a modern foreign language GCSE, but the Head says many university admissions department require this now?

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hmcAsWas · 06/05/2016 13:51

Dyslexic dd is hard working and bright and gets good academic results (however she has to put in three times the effort of anyone else to get good scores given her poor working memory, processing issues etc)

She is doing just fine with the majority of her subjects but is hopeless at Spanish (she took Spanish rather than French on the advice that Spanish is 'easier'). She is in Y9 and has been learning Spanish for two years but what she knows you could write on the back of a postage stamp. She really has not one clue - and none of it sticks. Language acquisition is obviously going to be much, much harder for many students with dyslexia since mastering English is tricky enough!

Head advises that students should do one MFL GCSE because this is expected by the Admissions Departments of most good universities? Is that so? I've always understood English and Maths as the must haves - do we really need to factor in a Modern Foreign Language too? She is academic enough to go to university and I don't want to scupper her chances.

I'd like her to drop Spanish and do a different subject. Only with a herculean effort and private tuition would she have a hope in hell of passing it - and the work involved would detract from doing her other subjects justice.....

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hmcAsWas · 06/05/2016 14:11

This is encouraging. Will chat to dd tonight and confirm that she is happy with dropping Spanish (am pretty sure that she will be enormously relieved), and then will discuss with the Head.

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hayita · 06/05/2016 14:10

Imperial requires student to pass a language thingy class before can get a degree from them. Which is waived if they have already GCSE in a MFL.

UCL, not Imperial.

educatingarti · 06/05/2016 14:08

Suspect it is more about school league tables than university entrance.

hmcAsWas · 06/05/2016 14:06

I like your robust response lljkk!

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hmcAsWas · 06/05/2016 14:06

Not quite sure what she'll do.

She is very talented in sport and in art, plus she is good at science, history and reasonable at maths. She might end up doing Sports Science or she might end up doing something creative. At one point she was thinking about forensic science. I could see her doing environmental health or possibly a graduate entrant to the police (if they do that). An office based role would not suit her and neither would anything that involves a great deal of reading and sifting through complex written info (so not law or medicine for instance). Could go in many different directions.

Thanks for the helpful advice coffee and lonacat. Interesting that it counts for the school in their performance measures!

Her GCSE options are currently triple science, maths, English, history, Art, PE, RE, IM&T, Spanish. I'd like her to drop Spanish and do something like drama, music or photography.....

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lljkk · 06/05/2016 14:00

bollocks to the Head.
Ask him to name one Uni that does this.
Imperial requires student to pass a language thingy class before can get a degree from them. Which is waived if they have already GCSE in a MFL.

Or a language course would probably require A-level (like if she actually studies French or German as main Uni degree).

Those are the closest to it being a reqt anywhere in UK.

Ionacat · 06/05/2016 13:58

The head is wrong. Here's a link to the FAQ on the Russell group website.
russellgroup.ac.uk/for-students/school-and-college-in-the-uk/subject-choices-at-school-and-college/

If your daughter doesn't do a MFL it means she won't get the EBAC, it doesn't really mean anything for her, but will for the school performance measure.

coffeeisnectar · 06/05/2016 13:58

What does your DD eventually hope to do in the future? I'd look at what's relevant so if it's anything medical based then biology or science rather than another language.

My own DD was pushed into doing geography as part of the baccalaureate which got dropped after a year of working towards it, so really not impressed that she had to drop a subject she wanted to do and be forced into doing something completely irrelevant to her.

FWIW my DD is doing A levels (and that's what counts for Uni entry) and she's doing double sports BTECH and AS maths. As longs as she gets the A* x2 on the sport and a B or C in maths she'll get her Uni place next year.

GCSEs are the base for A levels if that's the route she's going to take so get her to think about a) what she wants to be when she's finally finished education and then b) look at what she would need to do to achieve that via university and then c) pick the GCSE subjects she will want to expand on at A level.

hmcAsWas · 06/05/2016 13:57

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