Yr 6 SATS Support the Teachers?

I don't think many secondaries will be doing resits this year, we haven't even begun to get our heads around the KS2 changes and the effect this will have on next year's Y7.

There's too much change at once, we don't have the capacity.

Resits start next year, so the current yr5. However, secondary schools can chose whether they use resits this December for the current yr 6.

It isn't to late to write to your MP. It's too late for schools to arrange a boycott of this year's SATs. Also it's the NUT, unless the head teacher's unions boycott, it probably doesn't really matter what the NUT vote for.

The head teacher is the person who has the legal responsibility to ensure the tests are administered.

Someone up thread said that resits won't apply to Y6 taking SATS this year. I'd read that somewhere else, but at our(alarming) school SATS meeting we were told firmly that if they failed this year they'd have to resit. Does anyone know for sure one way or the other?

I've got a Y6 child who was above age related expectations for everything in Year 5 (and Y2 SATS), At a recent parents' evening I was told he "should" pass everything though it's not guaranteed and there are a few things he can't do in the just-released writing guidelines as they are much harder than expected. Just how many children are going to fail? Are the government really planning for a high fail rate just to make some political point?

How can it be too late to write to MPs when this is abt something only recently made public?

I think the only way this year's assessments can be stopped now is if the government do it themselves.

This year's year 6 have been shat on from a great height.

I'm not sure the test boycott is anything other than a PR attempt by the NUT. I don't think they have a handle on all the issues. A boycott of next year's SATs to make a point about issues with this year's does seem a bit pointless. Particularly when the test is less of an issue than the TA and there doesn't seem to be a boycott of that.

But I'm not sure what the answer is at this stage. I don't think anyone does.

Washed if you think the tests are a farce then you are free to write to your MP complaining about them.

Oh, and don't vote Tory.

I don't think they had too much choice over this year's SATs tests, washed. They were always a farce from their introduction, but it didn't become apparent how much of a farce until very recently.

Expecting that being taught 2 years of a 7 year curriculum that has significant changes to the previous one was always rubbish. The fuck ups they've made on top of that are making it worse.

If they DfE had any sense of putting children first, they would have put their hands up months ago, appologised for the mess they have made and cancelled this years already. Then they could have slowed down and take the time to get it right next year. Instead they are playing politics, because another U-turn at this point would be a PR disaster.

Unions are only allowed to take industrial action over pay and conditions, so how the changes affect teachers.

Frankly I think the unions should have piped up before instead of simply focusing on their own pay and conditions.

You're saying that you've only heard about this crisis in education now?

Remember how teachers hated Michael Gove? Did you ever ask why?

Shipwrecked They have been studying new NC since start y5

Oh, silly me, my bad

I've been in secondary teaching long enough to remember a time when it was considered good practice to develop an prepare new materials for a course, starting five years before the changes was due to come in, so that everyone knew what they were preparing for long enough to do a proper job of it.

Now we seem to be ok with little or no real preparation?

Asking what qualifies teachers to comment in no way implies that I think the motions should be shelved.

It's entirely up to the Union membership what they want their executive to act on.

But, teachers have criticised ministers for commenting and making decisions on professions they are not qualified in.

And, teachers are shouting for their voices to be heard about a crisis in their profession.
If the crisis is so bad then why not ask their executive to focus on that rather than get involved in issues that other unions are leading on?

trying you've misunderstood me. I don't think the NUT should shelve any of its motions if they are all equally important to its members.

flies, the misunderstanding stems from your comment that states:

If the Executive are being asked to spread themselves and resources ¬so thin to address all of those different issues, then it's less likely they'll succeed in making changes in any of them, surely?

I find it odd that you think:

flies - However, that contradicts the message from the sector that it is in crisis and fighting for survival.

Really? so the NUT have succinctly identified quite a number of issues that the state education sector in this country is facing, in one consolidated document, and you think it dilutes their message that there is a crisis.

You do realise that one of the many complaints teachers have is the frequency of change in the state educations sector. Evidently you feel this message is just too confusing for people to understand?

trying - I don't think the NUT should shelve any of its motions if they are all equally important to its members.

Only the ones that you feel are nothing to do with them - flies - what qualifies NUT members to vote on immigration and national security?

Interestingly that document you provided a link to makes it clear that there is a very obvious relevance in both these areas to the state education sector.

Willow & Frack - I intend to boycott as a parent of a child due to sit these stupidly useless tests.

trying you've misunderstood me. I don't think the NUT should shelve any of its motions if they are all equally important to its members.

However, that contradicts the message from the sector that it is in crisis and fighting for survival.

Parents should boycott SATS. Mine did not do them and are fine. Friends children complained that yr6 was boring because just focused on SATS. How is that useful?!

Do your know ds have to sit the days or can you opt out of them taking these pointless exams