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School application from rented address - nothing council can do?

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StandoutMop · 25/01/2016 13:59

A passing acquaintance (our dc were at nursery together but now at separate primaries) has moved into a rented house in order to get her eldest a place at their preferred secondary.

Their own home (which they own) is being rented out but they plan to return once dc is in the school, then repeat the rental trick for dc2 (as non-catchment siblings don't get any priority).

I know this is the case as she told me quite happily when I commented about how frequently I was passing her in street and asked if she had moved.

My dc aren't same school years as her's so won't affect me, but seems unfair on those living in catchment to me. (Slightly ashamed to admit this but) I called the council to ask if this was allowed and they told me that it is against the spririt of the rules, but there is nothing they can do if that is what people choose to do, as long as they don't move back before the dc start school.

Really? Do they have no powers to stop people playing the system like this? Seems crazy to me, and opens the system up massively to abuse by those who can afford to rent / move temporarily while local families lose out.

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Foxyloxy1plus1 · 26/01/2016 16:42

I think all methods of attempting to butt the system are morally unsound and very unfair to those who abide by the rules.

I'm amazed the council has said there is nothing they can do, as I was under the impression that places could be withdrawn if it's discovered that someone has tried to circumvent the system.

tiggytape · 25/01/2016 22:25

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defunctedusername · 25/01/2016 21:51

This is all wrong. The admissions system is set up to keep privilege entrenched. We need a massive change in how we allocate school places so we can stop wealthy parents buying/renting houses to get into good schools.

Get rid of grammar, religious, free, academy schools etc. and put the council in charge of them all. Parents should be forced to send their children to the local school, good or not. That is the only way we will all be equal. Get rid of the idiotic needs improvement Ofsted ranking and invest in our schools until they are all good.

tiggytape · 25/01/2016 19:30

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StandoutMop · 25/01/2016 19:04

Thanks for all your thoughts. Man I spoke to at council said they "weren't allowed to investigate" applications. But maybe he was just talking rubbish and they do check.

Will find out in March I guess when offers come out. I might call again and see if I get a different person / answer though.

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tiggytape · 25/01/2016 17:04

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bojorojo · 25/01/2016 16:48

It may not be the Council that is the Admissions Authority. It may be the school itself, as is often the case with RC, some C of E and all "Aided" Schools and lots of academies. It is a total mess really.

Orlando16 · 25/01/2016 16:44

I'll be honest with you, after finding out that our dd's first choice catholic secondary school had changed its criteria last year, which means it's now touch and go whether dd will get a place, we too considered renting closer to the school but couldn't go through with it as it's morally wrong. We own our house and didn't want to sell it and move as it's taken us years to get it how we want, so we are just hoping for the best.

I don't see how councils can allow people to do this though. Fair enough if you rent a home and then move to another rented how closer to the school but if you own a house then that is the address that should be used for the application. Dd's primary is a feeder for the secondary we want her to go to and we had a phone call in November to double check we lived there and apparently the council do this for everyone, so it's very unlikely we'd have gotten away with it had we have chosen to rent close by but also keep our house.

Brightnorthernlights · 25/01/2016 14:57

I know a very well off family who have sold their family home (as the school requires rental applications to show proof of sale of their previous home). They have rented one of the very few family homes available next door to a semi selective, extremely sought after school that only offers a handful of 'distance' places. They plan to gain a place for their youngest and then buy back in the area where they were previously. The school has a non catchment sibling policy, therefore their other children will all attend the school.

The 'distance' places are supposed to be offered to local children, to keep a sense of fairness, with regards the local community. They say they have done nothing wrong as some parents are using their childrens academic strengths to gain an advantage, whereas they are using their financial advantage! Shock

Lucsy · 25/01/2016 14:17

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TeenAndTween · 25/01/2016 14:13

Many councils have rules explicitly banning from applying from rented whilst still owning a house nearby.
To be honest I'm a bit shocked if they don't all have such rules.

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark · 25/01/2016 14:01

The council in question can't have seen the documentary last year showing how many people are "caught" doing this by specifically employed people who check applications and addresses etc. A couple of families on the documentary were caught out IIRC.