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Continuing Year 13: January 2016

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Needmoresleep · 06/01/2016 13:25

Only two more terms at school. Let's support each other support our DC in getting through to the end.

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MorvahRising · 20/06/2016 15:21

Atia three and a quarter hours to Wine here and counting! We can't win.

DS woke up, remembered he dropped some marks on the momentum question, declared he is completely stuffed and has no hope of getting his offer grades, stomped about a bit, raided the biscuit tin and is now actually doing a C3 paper.

I work from home and I must say having him around so much is very distracting what with constant stops to sympathise, bolster, nag, suggest and rush round shutting windows so the entire village doesn't hear him shouting!

hellsbells99 · 20/06/2016 15:07

Atia Grin have an early Wine .....sounds like you need it!
Morvah - DD2 was doing the AQA B syllabus which is sort of applied physics rather than physics, so no multiple choice as far as I know. It is always quite difficult and has low grade boundaries - last year was 66% on this paper for an A.....hoping this year is even lower!
Perhaps you had better wake your DS up to revise, although C3 is normally quite a good paper (last year being the exception I believe!)

Dunlurking · 20/06/2016 15:04

You can't win Atia. Ds doing his practice C3 papers at school this afternoon so thankfully not getting the stick you're getting. However I am dreading the practice C4 papers, not least because he hasn't really started on them yet and will be doing them non stop between tomorrow and Friday. At least he's finished then.

Welcome Dumbledoresgirl. Sorry meant to put it in my earlier post. How have the other exams gone for your ds?

EllenJanethickerknickers · 20/06/2016 15:01

DS found AQA physics A hard, much harder than all the past papers. He nearly ran out of time and guessed the last multi choice question and didn't have time to check.

AtiaoftheJulii · 20/06/2016 14:39

I'm an idiot who never learns. DD just did a C3 paper and asked me to mark it. She dropped 6 marks on a trig question as she'd worked out the angle wrong at the beginning, hence no accuracy marks all the way through although her method otherwise was perfect (and she would otherwise have got over 90ums with loads of time to spare). And yes, of course it's all my fault because I MARKED IT! And there's no point working on that type of question because she always gets them wrong and I'm the world's worst mother for even offering to do any more questions with her. Strop, stamp, slam, bed. It's too early for alcohol, isn't it?

MorvahRising · 20/06/2016 14:28

Hallo hellsbells and welcome Dumbledoresgirl - fellow AQA physics parents!

DS was rather muted when he came home today. He couldn't put his finger on exactly what the problem was as he didn't run out of time and nothing was actually dreadful, but he keeps saying he's just not happy with it. He said the multiple choice was difficult and he was worried that too many of his answers were Bs and Ds which statistically he felt couldn't be right, and for three answers in a row he put A which again he says doesn't usually happen.

He said the electromagnetic braking question was not what he was expecting and it was an application of something he had revised but in a way he hadn't come across before, if that makes sense.

Apparently finding the value of 'g' was fine though!

He needs an A for this and isn't at all sure he's got it. It's so miserable when they've worked so hard. Hopefully it's better than they think and that the grade boundaries will be kind.

He should now be revising C3 for tomorrow but I just peered round his bedroom door and he's fast asleep!

Dunlurking · 20/06/2016 12:51

Ds "Ok" with his AQA drama but one question was worded unusually '"weirdly" he said. Format normal otherwise. Glad that one is out of the way. Fingers crossed for those of you with dcs who did Physics. Ds dropped Physics after a D at AS! Glad your dd's Spanish was okay Atia

hellsbells99 · 20/06/2016 12:31

I think they have changed the format and question style in a lot of the papers Atia. DD said the chemistry paper last week was very odd.

AtiaoftheJulii · 20/06/2016 12:24

Spanish was ok, but a couple of questions in the listening section had a different format to the last several years, which was a bit odd, and could easily throw some people. E.g. there's a section which usually has 4 or 5 sentences and you have to listen to the piece, underline the mistake in the written sentence and then correct it - usually 2 marks per question (one for identifying the mistake, one for the correction). Today there were eight, but only 1 mark each! And then another where there are a few sentences and from listening to the recording say whether each sentence is true or false - usually (i.e. last 5 years of AS and A2, and also in last week's same board French paper) the sentences are in the order you hear them, but today they were jumbled up. DD doesn't seem too bothered fortunately.

hellsbells99 · 20/06/2016 12:12

Welcome Dumbledore - hope your son has done better than expected and grade boundaries are low. unfortunately DD thinks she will be lucky with a B on this paper. She says that even the calculations that are normally fine were bad and also not enough time. Told her to forget it now and move on - maths C3 tomorrow.

AtiaoftheJulii · 20/06/2016 12:09

Oh dear, so sorry to hear about the Physics :( Hope that if everyone has found it tough then the grade boundaries will be forgiving.

Dumbledoresgirl · 20/06/2016 12:06

Newbie to this thread - hello.

Just want to quietly weep with understanding parents. Ds has just come back from taking Physics utterly downhearted. He needs an A* and the paper just wasn't the style of questioning he excels at. He reckons he 'only' has an A. It's so hard, thinking this might be slipping away from him. Sad

hellsbells99 · 20/06/2016 11:46

Hoping for very low grade boundaries as the top 2 in her class also thought the same.

hellsbells99 · 20/06/2016 11:45

AQA physics B was apparently bad......according to DD

MorvahRising · 20/06/2016 09:14

Atia if your Dad had made an app for that I reckon he would have made a fortune . . . .

EllenJane haven't quite had time to read it all yet Grin but there are some useful bits on the first few pages!

Hope all exams go OK today. DS was incredibly nervous about the physics, much more so than for any of the others so far.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 20/06/2016 01:13

www.ocr.org.uk/images/82453-specification-from-june-2013-.pdf

Bedtime reading! Grin

EllenJanethickerknickers · 20/06/2016 01:09

Ah, DS1 needs an A* in FM or a grade 1 in STEP for his 1st choice. Sad

Snowy, I think most schools have opted to keep the applied modules free, so haven't 'banked' the AS level, so they can be shifted around to get the best possible result overall, maths takes priority, then FM etc. Some modules are AS only though if taking maths and FM, I think, so can be shifted between maths and FM, but maybe not between AS and A2. Confused

If doing maths only I think you can have one AS module included in A2, eg S1 and D1 may be AS and M1 in A2.

DS's school has chosen not to do FP3 as a compulsory module. His FM will be FP2 and two optional modules. DS chose M2, M3 and S2, one will go with maths and 2 with FM.

This is all for OCR MEI, btw, so may differ for other boards, but I looked up the syllabus yesterday after getting confused myself between FP2 and FP3.

raspberryrippleicecream · 20/06/2016 00:08

My DS1 is exactly the same as yours EllenJane. He needs an A* from either the Maths or the Physics.

From what he says, although he's predicted A* for FM it's very unlikely to happen, but that's OK.

snowy508601 · 19/06/2016 23:44

At DDs school they do FP2 and FP3 (both of which have to go in FM).
I have been trying to think through the effect of this- there is one fewer 'flexible' A2 module.I think it increases the chance of a FM A and reduces the chance of a maths A (but I might very well be wrong!)
The think that confuses me is that DD did M1, S1 and D1 last yaers as AS modules, but the single mathematicians have done M1 t as an A2 module! So are DDs M1,S1 and D1 locked into AS or could any be moved into A2 ? it is so confusing!!
Good luck to all our young dramatists,economists, physicists and linguists tomorrow!

hellsbells99 · 19/06/2016 21:28

Smile EllenJane .....told you we needed to be good at maths to try and work it out!

EllenJanethickerknickers · 19/06/2016 21:26

Actually, that's what you said, hellsbells! Blush

EllenJanethickerknickers · 19/06/2016 21:25

DS1 has physics (AQA) tomorrow, C3 maths on Tues and C4 on Friday this week with FP2 and Physics the week after.

We've just been chatting about grades and we reckon it is possible to get an A for maths and an A* for further maths but it's just unusual. You'd have to get below 180 UMS for C3 and C4 combined but do really well, above 90% in FP2 and the applied modules.

DS2 has now finished his GCSEs and poor DS1 has another 10 days to go. DS2 might be rubbing it in a bit. Hmm

hellsbells99 · 19/06/2016 20:22

Actually I think it is possible to get an A in maths and an A* in FM if they get less than 90% average on C3 and C4 but score very highly on the others papers ......but that would be a very odd result I agree!
If you need to be good at maths just to work the grades and combinations out Wink

AtiaoftheJulii · 19/06/2016 20:07

Atia, it all sounds a bit like when you want to buy three reasonably expensive items in Boots and one much cheaper of, and they have a two for the price of three offer, with the cheapest item being free. Or am I the only one who holds onto the cheap item till reassured that the offer has been processed.

lol yes, carefully putting things through in the right order Grin

Dunlurking · 19/06/2016 19:41

Good luck all for Physics, Economics, Spanish, and Drama tomorrow.