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What are after school detentions given for at your DCs school?

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LynetteScavo · 19/11/2015 19:12

DS2 has been given an after school detention for not having his book in class. Personally I think it's a bit harsh as it's his first offence, but then I'm the one having to re-organise my plans and spend a couple of hours collecting him.

My friends son in Y11 (at a different school) has been given an after school detention for getting an A on a past GCSE paper, when he was expected to get an A*.

What's normal at other schools?

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IguanaTail · 22/11/2015 16:18

A lunch time detention, missing socialising with his friends would have been much more painful for him. - schools have to provide students with enough time to eat their lunch. Any remaining time left over for detention would be unlikely to be long enough. In addition, teachers are required to have a lunchtime break.

Whatsername24 · 22/11/2015 14:31

My son's school has a same day detention policy and parents are sent a text to inform them.

I had a text just after they started back in September, informing me that he had a C2F detention after school. I had no idea what a C2F detention was so emailed one of the deputy heads - a new broom, if you like, who joined the school at the start of 2015 and has implemented all kinds of changes.
He looked into it and it was half an hour for not having his shirt tucked in at the back - a teacher somehow spotted it through the flap in his blazer.

gamerchick · 22/11/2015 14:17

Anything and everything here. More serious crimes like wearing the wrong shoes earns them a 2 day internal exclusion where they're kept in isolation and a formal meeting with the parents before they're allowed back in.

You have to treat them like infant school age in comp. check they have everything, wearing the right things, have completed every scrap of homework and personally see they get to school on time.

In other words, wipe their arses until they leave or they'll never learn how to function or take responsibility for themselves in the real world.

LynetteScavo · 22/11/2015 14:05

Well he's been given another detention for forgetting a book on Thursday Angry. So not only did DD have to miss her after school sports lesson on Friday, she will miss her Tutor on Monday.

This isn't sustainable, as it's unfair on DD and I can't afford the petrol, so will now check DSs bag every morning.

He seemed to quite enjoy the Friday detention. He completed his weekend homework then spent an hour chatting to a friend whose parent was stuck in traffic. A lunch time detention, missing socialising with his friends would have been much more painful for him.

The school which gave the detention for the A is a grammar, but not the one mentioned up thread.

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GinandJag · 21/11/2015 21:39

AQ, my children are in Y9 and L6 and three beyond school age. So far we have had a total of two after school detentions (both for missing homework). It's not good to ASSume.

QuestionsAboutDS · 21/11/2015 21:29

At DS's school his detentions are mostly for saying "no I refuse to do that piece of work", so he's detained until he does it to teach him that it's not optional. Which is clearly enough justification for serious punishment, but it's bloody cold for me then standing out in the street for 20 minutes waiting for him. I get that it's meant to be a motivator for me as well as him, but it's the luck of the draw whether the parent in question is standing in the street waiting to collect the child and freezing her tits off or sitting in a nice warm car listening to Radio 4, or still at work and not inconvenienced in the slightest.

GinandJag · 21/11/2015 21:18

I am not a fan of detentions. I would never give them if put to me, let alone after school. I have only said what the policy is at the school I am current on a 7-week placement at. An after school detention would be for repeated misdemeanours, not a once off forgetting your protractor. In fact, most equipment is provided, so I can't imagine any sanction for not having something other than an exercise book.

At the school I am at detention is the first line of punishment - 30 minute lunchtime, escalating to after school of varying lengths with increasingly senior members of staff. I am quite shocked by this and do see most of my colleagues tied up with supervising lunchtime detentions most days. I don't know why they don't collaborate and have a rota. Hey ho, I am new to the state sector.

At my last school, a note in their planner did the trick, and failing that, a loss of s house point.

Lancelottie · 21/11/2015 21:05

*the moment. I can spell. Sometimes.

Lancelottie · 21/11/2015 21:04

GinandJag works at a school, it seems, anyquestions. Hey ho.

Luckily, even the harsh detention-hander-outer at our school turned out to be amenable to a friendly email saying, in effect, 'Sorry my child is so distracted at them moment. She's a bit stressed because of her home life - will try to help her get more on top of it.'

Frankly, making her/our home life that bit harder wasn't going to help, was it?

anyquestions1 · 21/11/2015 21:01

GinandJag, if you think that a one off occasion of forgetting a piece of equipment indicates a failure on the part of the parents to instill "appropriate values" then I very strongly suspect your own children have not yet reached secondary school age Grin If they have managed to get through their entire secondary school career without once forgetting a piece of equipment then, believe me, they are the exception that proves the rule!

Lancelottie · 21/11/2015 21:00

Oh sod that, Gin. She has values - such as kindness, and a sense of proportion. She's just a ditz.

Luckily our school is a fairly kindly one. Never had to discover what an afterschool detention would be for yet.

emwithme · 21/11/2015 20:59

I got an after school detention three weeks into Y7. We had geography text books and work books and I went up to the teacher at the start of the lesson and said I'd forgotten my work book (had the textbook). She gave me a detention. The fucking thing that gets me (even now 28 years later) is that we didn't use the fucking workbook at all during the lesson so if I'd kept my gob shut I wouldn't have had the detention (or the major bollocking from home that came with it).

What lesson did I learn? Keep my gob shut, and that that teacher was a total bitch (and the reason I didn't take geography - which I was good at - at GCSE).

GinandJag · 21/11/2015 20:54

Instill appropriate values in your child.

anyquestions1 · 21/11/2015 20:46

"For a parent, a detention is meant to be inconvenient. No sympathy from me." This seems an illogical comment in the context of a detention for a one off offence of forgetting a piece of equipment. Surely most people would accept that the average secondary school child can be expected to take responsibility for packing his or her own bag for school. Why then should parents be punished for a single missing piece of equipment? In any event whether a detention is inconvenient for parents is going to depend hugely on individual circumstances, ie whether child can make own way home after detention, or whether detention means parent having to pick child up from school.

BlueBlueSea · 21/11/2015 20:44

At my DD's school after school detentions are the only ones they give and they get them for everything; H=forget homework, not wearing lanard, not having planner signed by parent on a friday, broken ruler, forgetting PE kit, skirt above the knee - any reason at all.

They also do them on the same day and text parents at 3 to tell them. Awful. We complain and it makes no difference. Local state school.

MsMermaid · 21/11/2015 20:27

We would give after school detention for things like repeated failure to complete homework, repeated disruption in lessons, repeated lack of equipment.

So a single missing book every so often will most likely just be growled at and told to hand in the following day, not having it all week would be a lunchtime detention, still not having it means an after school (or buying a replacement). Same for equipment, sharing a friends calculator for one lesson is OK, not ever bringing your own is not.

GinandJag · 21/11/2015 20:22

At the school I am contracting at, the first punishment is lunchtime detention for any misdemeanour, eg missing homework or low level disruption. An afterschool detention would be for a second offence of more than low level disruption.

For a parent, a detention is meant to be inconvenient. No sympathy from me.

IguanaTail · 21/11/2015 20:18

I would agree to a certain point - it seems petty and trivial to give a detention for not bringing a ruler or pen for example. However there are some schools which really really struggle to get students to bring equipment and this hugely slows down what you can achieve in class. In those sorts of schools they have to put in place clear sanction systems. I worked in such a school - it would be normal for half the class to arrive with zero equipment and teachers to have to lend out or sell them stuff. So where do they draw a line? At least bring a pen? What if it's maths? Should they ignore the lack of pen but take issue with the lack of ruler? What it ends up as is a really strong code of bringing a pen, pencil ruler and rubber and a short detention for anyone not doing so. That means the lesson can run more smoothly.

Conversely, in schools where kids are nearly always perfectly well equipped, the sanction system can be far far looser because there is a basic understanding that you have to bring your equipment to school. Therefore, a child in school a) not bringing a pen could get a detention, but in school b) it would be more likely tolerated.

RachelZoe · 21/11/2015 20:09

Both of my DCs schools use after school detentions for multiple or serious offences only.

See I do wish my kids school would use them a bit less liberally, the weight of the punishment does kind of get lost if they dole them out for any old thing.

Suffolkgirl1 · 21/11/2015 19:13

DC's friends at our local school have received them for: forgetting a ruler, NOT having a calculator in a non calculator maths test!!, and a homework poem only having 4 verses instead of 5!
Both of my DCs schools use after school detentions for multiple or serious offences only.
The local school is a low choice on DS2 CAF despite its good academic reputation because I feel this level of sanction is OTT.(I also have an issue with their uniform but thats another story)

millefeuille1 · 21/11/2015 18:40

It could be that your child really needed the book for that lesson (prep work done) and couldn't properly participate without it?

Anotherusername1 · 21/11/2015 16:15

My friends son in Y11 (at a different school) has been given an after school detention for getting an A on a past GCSE paper, when he was expected to get an A. *

Pretty shocked at this. It wasn't RGS in Guildford by any chance was it?

My son's school gives out detentions all the time. Breaktime detentions for things like not having compasses in Maths or forgetting PE kit. After-school detentions of differing lengths for things like not doing homework, forgetting homework, answering back in class etc.

purpledasies · 20/11/2015 22:04

DS had had one for repeatedly forgetting homework. And DD (different school) got one for bunking off a lesson (hiding in the toilets with a friend discussing a fallout with a different friend.....) Those are the only ones they've had each

RachelZoe · 20/11/2015 21:28

My little ones don't get them, they're still in the losing break/lunch playtime or similar phase.

I have 3 at secondary (y10 and lower 6th) and it's the teachers/housemasters discretion. It can be anything from a forgotten book, late homework, shirt not tucked in, talking in class, anything, it's up to them.

IguanaTail · 20/11/2015 21:02

Maybe spell it "principal" when you do Wink