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At a school open evening tonight, Headmaster said

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EvilTwins · 06/10/2015 22:57

Not to believe what you read about the school on Mumsnet

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educatingarti · 08/10/2015 13:22

I think I know which school this is. My High School used to play them at netball. We would often win (but not always).May well still play them at netball for all I know!

viewwater · 08/10/2015 08:19

If this is the school (co-ed) I think, the headmaster is excellent so who knows what went through his head when he made the comment.
The extracurricular drama is very strong and enthusiastically done but unlike art and pe (which are popular and well taught at GCSE and A level) does seem to have a much lower profile than it should as an academic subject. Music appears very strong because of lots of very talented children but the academic teaching for GCSE is lacklustre, certainly not at the level you would hope for. I think (perhaps not surprisingly? generally there is some lazy academic teaching but on the whole there is excellence and inspiring teachers as well plus a strong emphasis on participation in extracurricular activities including the House ones. Overall it gives a very good chance of an all round emphasis on education but for drama and music probably more extracurricular and mixing with other talented DCs.

EvilTwins · 08/10/2015 06:44

I think drama is very much seen as an extra, with the focus at KS4 on traditional academic subjects

This bothers me. I want my children to have a all-round , balanced education.

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AccidentalNameChange · 07/10/2015 23:29

Maybe he meant 'Mumsnet' as a generic term for all online parenting sites? Hmm

AccidentalNameChange · 07/10/2015 23:28

Poole or Parkstone Grammar Schools?

DorothyL · 07/10/2015 23:19

I think drama is very much seen as an extra, with the focus at KS4 on traditional academic subjects - there's no DT to speak of either for example.

Wolfiefan · 07/10/2015 22:26

Oh I RTFT and I still don't know which school this is! Gutted.

EvilTwins · 07/10/2015 22:22

Interesting that you say that Dorothy - I got the feeling from the students that the music/drama was something they were all very proud of, but drama certainly doesn't do well as a curriculum subject.

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scatterthenuns · 07/10/2015 22:14

I'd definitely name and shame the school for saying something so silly!

"Don't listen to parents, they're all talking crap, we're fantastic!"

TalkinPeece · 07/10/2015 22:09

Thanks Eviltwins : you comprehend my point exactly

DorothyL · 07/10/2015 22:09

Even a top grammar can only do so much with students who for whatever reason can't/wont put the work in - and grammar school students are only kids after all, with home problems, teenage angst...
What makes the school special is the music, the house events, the brilliant drama productions...

EvilTwins · 07/10/2015 21:58

I think the point Talkin makes is that the exam results aren't really that amazing when you consider the starting points of the students. It needn't be an exam factory as the students come in on such a high level. What's more surprising is that there were Ds at GCSE at all. I had 9 A*s at GCSE this year. Two of those came in with 4c at KS2 which equates to 6 levels of progress.

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DorothyL · 07/10/2015 21:16

To conclude from one open evening that the teachers are coasting strikes me as rather rash... I couldn't be happier with the school, but each to their own Smile

TalkinPeece · 07/10/2015 20:41

The school is, however, by no means an exam factory, it is very relaxed and has an abundance of extracurricular stuff going on.
It can afford to be.
If it has A grade pupils coming in the door, it can coast for 7 years and produce A grades.

EvilTwins · 07/10/2015 18:35

I wouldn't teach there for all the tea in China. I love the school I teach in - 40% PP, fabulous kids and lots of interest in the subject I teach. At the school in question, the subject I teach no longer figures in KS5 and my GCSE results were better than theirs.

If teachers there think they don't have to make the effort for open evening, then that's a shame. All children deserve to feel that the staff care about them. The children at the school were engaging, articulate and lovely. Perhaps that's more down to parenting than teaching.

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DorothyL · 07/10/2015 17:57

To be fair I think there are several ways to feel rewarded by teaching... One is bringing on disadvantaged kids and giving them opportunities they never knew existed, but there's also teaching a group of true high flyers and getting them to stretch their intellect. This particular school has been very proactive in trying to widen access, including work with local primary schools and changing the nature of the test, but at the end of the day it chooses the top 120 of those who take the test, in pursuit of high academic standards.

The school is, however, by no means an exam factory, it is very relaxed and has an abundance of extracurricular stuff going on.

TalkinPeece · 07/10/2015 14:36

Looking at the DFE entries for PGS :
less than 1% of the whole school on FSM,
only 3 in a cohort without English as first language, (4% of pupils in LEA)
only 1 with any sort of SEN (5% of pupils in LEA)
no disadvantaged pupils at all (16.5% of pupils in the LEA)
wow, that must be enthralling to teach Hmm

mummytime · 07/10/2015 14:25

I personally know lots of teachers who would not want to work in such a school. I know teachers who have turned down being personally offered jobs at top schools.
Some teachers prefer teaching more deprived students or even in the inner city.

TalkinPeece · 07/10/2015 14:15

Teachers would prefer to work at a school marking top grade work . This is hugely more benefical than spending half their time managing behaviour.
If you say so.

sunshield · 07/10/2015 11:25

I belive the school in question is over 400 years old and is always in the top 5 state schools in the country.

They don't need to do a selling job unlike EvilTwins . A bit like you don't need to sell a Ferrari , but you do a Fiat.

The school does not to care about the gossip goung on this site. The results and reputation of the school are not influenced by the snide remarks about the teaching standards !.

I am sure the truth is no matter who much EvilTwins or other teachers on here will deny it, Teachers would prefer to work at a school marking top grade work . This is hugely more benefical than spending half their time managing behaviour.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 07/10/2015 10:23

Sorry, I didn't read the thread properly. I see you'd already posted the school.

I think a number of the K school's threads went missing in the same way the QE threads seem to. neither school is anywhere near me, but the only thing I know about either of them is that they appear to have something to hide. Which is not great as a first impression.

TalkinPeece · 07/10/2015 08:20

Mintyy
I think after the debacle of the bowlderised Queen Etheburga's thread
(which is almost more damaging with the removed posts than the original version - of which I have a copy)
schools might be a tad more wary about jumping in with their size 12's

Mintyy · 07/10/2015 08:17

The immediate shutting down of any online discussion by K school that I think Rafa is referring to is one of the most off-putting things about it.

TalkinPeece · 07/10/2015 08:12

Has the muppet of a head never heard of the "Streisand Effect" ??

He deserves all the ridicule he'll get Grin

Gileswithachainsaw · 07/10/2015 07:40

I'd belief mn over ofsted tbh.

anyone can put in a show for scheduled tours etc

harder to "fake it" permanently.