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New recruit teacher is inadequate

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BoboChic · 15/09/2015 06:41

This, basically. DD in Y7 started secondary school 2 weeks ago. One - and only one - of her teachers is totally inadequate. He is a new recruit. Parents and pupils have noticed pretty quickly that he doesn't have the first inkling of the subject he is supposed to be teaching. One approach has already been made to the school to alert them. What are the best words to use to describe this situation? Inadequate? Lacking subject knowledge?

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SilverBirchWithout · 15/09/2015 23:43

It makes recent Education Ministers in the UK shaping policy, practise and curriculum in our schools led by the mob who write in the Telegraph and Mail look positively benign.

Miller2408 · 15/09/2015 23:43

OMG...fastdaytears you made me laugh so much I'm willing to leave my marriage for you! Please can you scrap having teachers all together as well, and why not the head. Get rid of them all...no need for them, right? After all we have fabulous parents out there who know it all.

This thread is epic! OP's head is sooooooo stuck up her backside, I can't get over how F**ked up and deluded someone can be. I mean let's give an applause to the head though, I mean genius. How better to deal with a pyscho parent....don't deal with them! Why bother, agree with them as pass the shit to someone else. Genius

fastdaytears · 15/09/2015 23:14

Yeah good plan. To be fair what has science actually done for us? I'll put double minecraft on in its place.

Lauren15 · 15/09/2015 23:05

fastday can you also scrap science as no one really uses it anyway ( just taking the perspective of my teenage son).

BitOfFun · 15/09/2015 23:00

Ken Robinson's TED talk was ace, but I think Bobochic's would just blow me away.

CloakAndJagger · 15/09/2015 22:57

So, hang on. The HT realised that there was a fundamental flaw in the French National Curriculum based on a conversation with you?

Play your cards right, and there's a TV movie in this if you manage to change the system based on two weeks, a bit of Y7 homework and a hot drink with the head.

Shutthatdoor · 15/09/2015 22:55

fastdaytears Grin

ilovesooty · 15/09/2015 22:10

Absolutely, Jeanne

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 15/09/2015 22:09

How do you know that he has not taught the subject previously? If, indeed, that is he case, you might usefully enquire of the school why they don't have a specialist teacher in the subject.

You don't need jargon to express a concern- but I would consider your language carefully. Preferring to him as 'a moron' will not further your case.

How many other parents have expressed concern? You can bet that if he really is not coping, it will be apparent to the leadership team in the school and they will be considering support.

fastdaytears · 15/09/2015 22:08

Just to let you know guys, I've had a think about the UK curriculum and talked to some people and I've decided that spelling isn't a thing any more. I'm not a teacher or owt but I've sorted it.
You're welcome. I'm thinking about getting geography taken off next but I've also got an eye on rewriting the Spanish curriculum.

ilovesooty · 15/09/2015 22:08

And I thought the English system was bad.
I've come across some officious meddling parents in my time but this beats just about everything. The head teacher sounds spineless too.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 15/09/2015 22:08

Just out of curiosity, and I do apologise if this comes across as rude, but do you think you have a hope in hell of recognising modesty if it slaps you in the face?

TheFallenMadonna · 15/09/2015 22:08

Same goes for parents I reckon...

PlaysWellWithOthers · 15/09/2015 22:08

This thread is a scream!

OP sounds like an utter loony, the kind of bustling person that any HT worth their salt would inevitably throw up the food chain, having had a long and amusing telephone call with the unfortunate they punted them up to.

I wait with baited breath the "md" telling the OP that they will take their comments under advisement and trying not to explode with laughter as OP leaves their office.

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 22:07

There are fantastic teachers and terrible ones and everything in between. Generally the better teachers are much more modest about their input than the crap ones.

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MumTryingHerBest · 15/09/2015 22:06

BoboChic don't think that parents' opinions about their DC are systematically twaddle. Plenty of teachers I know are of that opinion. Particularly when the parents are banging on the classroom door demanding to know why their child has been put on the red book band when they know perfectly well their their DC should be a free reader because they read encyclopedias at home.

longtimelurker101 · 15/09/2015 22:06

Not being funny, but " fundamental flaws in the system" but the head has had his road to Damascus moment and changed his mind following a meeting with you.

Wow, can you come consult over here OP? I'm sure your expertise in education will greatly benefit the DOE. Genuinely, if you have such great analysis please share further so we can all bask in your munificence

Actually the MD will placate you some more, say all the soothing things that infalte your ego that you want to hear and move you on, your child may get a different teacher so no one at the school goes through this again.

You are most definately one of THOSE parents.

TheFallenMadonna · 15/09/2015 22:04

Some parents... You'd hope they were both informed and acting in the best interests of all in the school of course, but that isn't always the case in my experience of parental involvement. And my DH was very involved in my DC's primary.

Lauren15 · 15/09/2015 22:03

I didn't say your opinion about your dcs is twaddle. I was referring to your assertion that you are more able to see things from your children's perspectives. The opinion of parent and teacher are equally valuable and each must listen to the other. Teachers see your children in a different context to you and you must respect their opinion just as you wish yours to be respected. Tbh you come across as having little respect for the teaching profession and seem to think yourself qualified to tell them how to do their jobs. I would seriously love to see you teach a class for a year and see how long you lasted.

BitOfFun · 15/09/2015 22:00

I wonder if it might be an idea you looking for an actual job, Bobochic? Think of all you could achieve!

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 21:58

The downside is that parents do a lot of work for free for the school. The upside is that you get to make improvements. Waiting around hoping doesn't work but being quite fixated on your desired outcome generally does. Swings and roundabouts.

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TheFallenMadonna · 15/09/2015 21:54

I think that is a somewhat unfortunate arrangement. As a parent, I would not like it.

MumTryingHerBest · 15/09/2015 21:53

AllThatGlistensIs I'd say something eminently sensible and encouraging.. But I'm too busy being agog. This is my current fave WTF thread

+1

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 21:51

TheFallenMadonna - I'm not sure that communication between these two men is very easy, for a host of reasons (long-standing older head, much newer and younger MD are part of it)

The Parents' Association often acts as a buffer/go-between. It's not an unknown situation for parents to get involved.

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TheFallenMadonna · 15/09/2015 21:48

As I made clear, I'm not questioning your motives. And I know nothing of the school's current curriculum nor your proposed change. I'm questioning the idea that the leader of an education organisation won't listen to the Head of one of his schools regarding curriculum, but will listen to a parent. But then I keep saying it, and you think I am questioning you addressing the issue in the first place or going to the main man to do so. I'm not.

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