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New recruit teacher is inadequate

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BoboChic · 15/09/2015 06:41

This, basically. DD in Y7 started secondary school 2 weeks ago. One - and only one - of her teachers is totally inadequate. He is a new recruit. Parents and pupils have noticed pretty quickly that he doesn't have the first inkling of the subject he is supposed to be teaching. One approach has already been made to the school to alert them. What are the best words to use to describe this situation? Inadequate? Lacking subject knowledge?

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Funinthesun15 · 15/09/2015 07:22

Witch hunting with other parents is neither fair or appropriate 2 weeks in.

Well said

Shutthatdoor · 15/09/2015 07:21

I do need jargon because want I feel like asking is why this moron got the job!

Oh aren't you delightful Hmm

slightlyconfused85 · 15/09/2015 07:20

Just email your daughter's form tutor with your concerns; he or she will forward as appropriate.
On another note, you are not being reasonable - 2 weeks is not long enough to judge and he will be subject to checks and observations. Witch hunting with other parents is neither fair or appropriate 2 weeks in.

badgergirl82 · 15/09/2015 07:20

I can well believe it. I once observed an English lesson where the teacher described stanzas in the poem as 'paragraphs' throughout and was appointed because we had no other candidates!

In this instance though, I'd leave it until October half term and then make an appointment to speak to the HOD backed up with actual instances so it is about discrepancies in the subject knowledge rather than the teacher as such.

They may well improve although as I say, I sympathise.

MythicalKings · 15/09/2015 07:19

The teacher is obviously not getting proper supervision. Not sure you name-calling him/her will help.

Express your concerns, fair enough, but try not to be such a cow about it.

addictedtosugar · 15/09/2015 07:19

I'd write to the head, with a list of concerns, and let them decide the level of competence.

So, for e.g.

Dear Head,

While it is early in the year, I would like to raise some concerns about the level of teaching in Y7, form 1 by Mr X.
Homework set on date was full of errors, for example requesting a noun was added to each sentance, where an adjective was required. The marking of this sheet further confused the students, by putting in adverbs.
Other examples here, with descriptions and dates.

This has left DD very confused, having had a good grasp of the subject in primary.

Paragraph of what you want to happen - investigation into mistakes? Supervision? not dismissal

Bobo

Obviously correct my pretty crap grammar, and put in real live examples rather than my possibly impossible examples Grin

BoneyBackJefferson · 15/09/2015 07:17

Your issue isn't with the teacher its with the school.

RedMapleLeaf · 15/09/2015 07:16

Your only example is one piece of homework, so make your concerns factual and say, "I have concerns about the homework set on Tuesday".

Hopefully they will sack him and appoint one of the many experienced teachers just sat around at home waiting for the opportunity of teaching your child.

Berthatydfil · 15/09/2015 07:12

Are you a school inspector or other type of teacher assessor?
If not avoid the jargon. You will just come across as a dick - sorry
Just raise you concerns in plain English from your / your child's perspective.
I would say contact the HOD but if there isn't one enquire who is covering or send to the deputy or Head.
However if your child has just entered yr 7 then bear in mind the children may not have been taught these separate subjects before, and basic knowledge of the class coming from probably several /many primary schools will vary considerably.
It may be usual to set some basic tasks to introduce the subject and get a baseline for prior knowledge.
You don't say what subject it is or whether it's likely go feature in your dcs GCSE Choices which are 3 years away.
These 2 weeks are unlikely to affect your child's education irreparably.

noblegiraffe · 15/09/2015 07:12

You phone up and say 'I'm concerned that X has set my DC incorrect work, please can this be monitored.

But if the guy isn't a specialist and the HOD role is empty it sounds like the school is struggling to recruit. It may be a case of X or no one, so don't expect X to be sacked and replaced with someone better.

Devilishpyjamas · 15/09/2015 07:11

Why on earth are all the parents getting together and hovering over year 7 homework? I only know about 3 parents in ds2's class & he's in year 9.

Just email & say you're concerned. Personally I'd give him a bit longer before getting all flustered.

Kez100 · 15/09/2015 07:08

Raise the issue and stick to facts or examples . Forget comments like no subject knowledge at all as that is highly unlikely and only serves to make it sound like you are exaggerating the situation. You want to come across as level headed and adding things like "at all" for dramatic effect are not necessary.

If the work is that bad and could out the teacher, you are right not to put it on here.

Changedtoday · 15/09/2015 07:06

Are you concerned they are repeating material covered in primary Y6? That's quite normal as teachers need to bring all pupils to a common standard. In our case it's in French and the teacher explained to the pupils why this was happening. Have you got subject leaders, heads of year that you can contact? No need for jargon, explain your concerns.

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 07:05

I do need jargon because want I feel like asking is why this moron got the job!

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Lowdoorinthewall · 15/09/2015 07:03

You don't need 'jargon'. You are not ofsted!

Just phone or email DC's form tutor and express your concerns as you have here- tasks set don't seem appropriate/ marking seems to be a problem etc.

They won't say 'Wait one moment bobo, we'll just pop MrX on capability and send you the transcript of the meeting' though. You will have to put your faith in them to deal with it- and if they are a decent school they will.

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 07:02

Fuctifino - he set a gap-fill style grammar exercise. It had several conceptual errors (ie it was impossible to give correct answers) and his "correction" was also littered with mistakes. DC were totally confused as they are all fully master this particular aspect of grammar.

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GloriaHotcakes · 15/09/2015 07:01

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Kez100 · 15/09/2015 07:00

But it's week two? In week one my two were given books to cover in favourite paper. Is it the level he has set? The work incorrect? What's wrong with the marking?

If you insist on approaching the school, forget jargon, give examples and try to have a supportive tone as otherwise, after two weeks, you could look a bit daft. You don't want that with five years still to go.

You might be right of course, but if they are that bad then it will come to SLT s notice.

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 07:00

He is not an NQT. He has been newly recruited to the school and has never taught this subject before, however. He is 40 and has another subject specialism.

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TheSecondOfHerName · 15/09/2015 06:59

"I have some concerns about the homework that has been set". That states the facts.

fuctifino · 15/09/2015 06:58

Can you give an example of how he is lacking in subject knowledge?
It must be dire to be evident from their books?

fuctifino · 15/09/2015 06:56

He will be managed, there is normally a dedicated teacher that 'looks after' nqt's. The hod wouldn't necessarily observe all lessons but they would be in on regular meetings

BoboChic · 15/09/2015 06:55

We see our DCs' files every day - they get set homework every lesson.

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BoboChic · 15/09/2015 06:54

I don't need vocabulary for the analysis. I just want to check the jargon to describe a teacher with no subject knowledge and whose basic skills are inadequate.

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fuctifino · 15/09/2015 06:54

I don't understand how the parent's can tell. What are you all doing up at school? How have you been able to see him teach?