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MFL not compulsory at KS4

34 replies

redskybynight · 11/09/2015 11:10

DS's school has stated that, despite the rise of the EBacc, it will not be making the taking of a MFL at GCSE compulsory, although it will guarantee that every child that wishes to is able to study one.

So ... I was wondering - how will children not taking a MFL GCSE

  • affect individual children
  • affect the school
?

Just seems an odd stance for them to take!

OP posts:
noblegiraffe · 11/09/2015 14:57

Sorry, it wasn't Ofsted who decided that, it was the current Tory government.

I think exceptions will be made in the case of students with learning difficulties, but I expect these would need to be justified.

ifonly4 · 11/09/2015 14:55

They all have to study one/two languages up in KS3 at my DD's school, but when they take their options a language is not compulsory - they had to choose two out of three languages offered, geography and history.

TeenAndTween · 11/09/2015 14:50

noble that is depressing. Sad

So instead of being allowed to drop history (which she was going to fail despite best efforts), DD would have had to keep it on. So she would have failed English Language too, and dropped at least 1 grade in both her sciences. That would have really been to her benefit.

noblegiraffe · 11/09/2015 14:45

Ofsted have said that schools who don't make all children (from current y7 on) study ebacc subjects to GCSE will not be able to achieve the highest ratings in their inspections.

So the school might fail Ofsted.

Ta1kinPeace · 11/09/2015 13:36

It will be effectively compulsory for all children deemed capable of passing it
but very sensibly left out for those kids who have to put all their energies into English, Maths and Science core

merlottime · 11/09/2015 12:42

School, not hook.

merlottime · 11/09/2015 12:42

My DS is severely dyslexic. His school does not make him do a MFL. Instead he has extra English as this is his best chance of scraping the all important C grade; he would probably fail English and the MFL if the this hook didn't adopt this sensible approach. One size doesn't fit all.

TeenAndTween · 11/09/2015 11:54

I think that is a very sensible stance.

If you have children performing at a low level in English, difficulty writing with correct grammar and spelling etc, it is possible they will not gain much by attempting an MFL.

So kids who wouldn't pass an MFL benefit by the stance, instead they can do a GCSE or BTEC they can achieve in.

The school's Ebacc figures will be lower which will look less good for people who don't look beyond figures.
But the school's 'Progress 8' figures may benefit (I don't think they require an MFL do they?).

(I'm speaking as the parent of a DD who did 2 MFLs, but dropped History after mocks so didn't end up with the Ebacc anyway).

The downside is those kids who could achieve an MFL but 'can't see the point' or don't want to put the effort in because they are perceived to be harder. So that will be up to the parents & teachers to be persuasive.

patterkiller · 11/09/2015 11:18

Probably done to stop their a-c average being effected by those who just don't get languages but are forced to study them.

My eldest has the EBaac my youngest won't as it's not compulsory. I'm sure she won't take to crime as a profession and lead a long and happy life. Meh.