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Could someone please explain about remarking English GCSE papers?

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icouldjusteatacroissant · 20/08/2015 21:07

She failed English Language, and her teacher said she would send the paper away to see if they could claw back a few extra marks. her projected grade was higher.

Is this common practice? and realistically what percentage of papers are upgraded?

any info at all on this would be appreciated, this is new and strange territory for our family.

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catslife · 08/09/2015 15:22

Hope it works out for your dd Greenandblue. I have sent you a pm.

Greenandblue123 · 06/09/2015 16:38

Cats life thank you.
I hadn't thought of these possibilities but will ask these questions of the school.
I agree if the answer sheet was missing why was this not recorded or the school contacted rather than a mark of 0 being awarded.
Thank you for your helpful support :)

catslife · 06/09/2015 14:09

Hi Greenandble it sounds as if what has happened here is that the printed answers and the cover sheet explaining that answers were done on a computer have become detached from the answer book. So the examiner has essentially marked it as if a blank answer book was handed in and given it the mark zero.
If a whole paper is missing for a pupil recorded as Present on the Attendance register then there is a procedure for tracking down missing papers and if the paper is still missing at deadline date then a special code is entered on the marksheet (usually M for missing) and then a mark will be allocated based either on other marks or on mock results. Extra pages missing is a bit of a grey area. Possibly what the school needs to do is request that WJEC checks the papers for all candidates in your centre (both foundation and higher) to make sure that your dds answers haven't been marked already and the marks given to another candidates (especially if your dd isn't the only one that uses a word-processor).
The only other possibility is that your dds printed answers were removed and sent on to a more Senior examiner, but if this was the case then usually the examiners fill out a form to state this has been done.
The only other possibility that I can think of is that if your dd did another GCSE exam on the same day could the printed answers have been sent off with the wrong paper?
Hope that helps

Greenandblue123 · 05/09/2015 08:40

Got an update on my daughters recorded 0 for her English language exam.
WJEC have found the exam paper but the printed answer is not in it, the school have a record that it was sent so WJEC have lost it :0
The school destroy the papers once they are sent off so they are trying to retrieve it from the laptop she worked on.
Her sixth form have had to enter her for the November resit as her overall mark is currently a D. Surely if WJEC have lost the paper they should give her a mark based on the aggregation of her other marks, rather than making her resit :(

janinlondon · 02/09/2015 15:57

Belated thanks for your reply Beetroot!

Greenandblue123 · 29/08/2015 16:19

Both exams were on the same memory stick, but I think the school also prints them off to check so they may well have a copy.
Good point about the exam board being informed about the computer.
I'll ask these questions on Tuesday when the exams officer should be back
Thanks :)

catslife · 29/08/2015 12:23

Hi Greenandblue123 do you know if both papers were sent on the same memory stick or were 2 different ones used? Has the school retained copies of her work so could it be sent again?
Has the school sent the correct paperwork to the exam board (for both papers) to say that your dd has had their permission to take the exams using the computer. Sometimes marks will be automatically set to zero if this hasn't been done?
Hope this helps?

Greenandblue123 · 29/08/2015 09:28

Thanks Titchy - just checked and both exams are correctly listed as higher tier, so it can't be that :(

titchy · 29/08/2015 00:20

Green check the tier she was entered for... A mismatch of actual and entered tier may result in a mark of zero....

beetrootface74 · 28/08/2015 18:16

jan our board for English language was WJEC/GCS

Greenandblue123 · 28/08/2015 17:54

She did complete the full exam paper and thought she had done ok.
Thanks for all your replies, hopefully if it is an error it will be resolved in some way.

ravenAK · 28/08/2015 17:40

If it's online mark collection then it's completely possible for the examiner to miss key a mark & have it come up as something silly, yes, sorry - I missed that bit!

Or somehow skip over the candidate altogether & not record a mark.

Infuriating for you & your dd, but should be easily resolved. She's definitely not likely to have just sat there in a panic for the entire exam?! It does happen.

If she actually put pen to paper she'd definitely not score 0 (well, I did have one paper this summer that was filled from front to back with extremely rude drawings, but short of that...).

noblegiraffe · 28/08/2015 16:54

A zero in that situation sounds like there has been some sort of computer error. This definitely needs to be followed up.

Greenandblue123 · 28/08/2015 15:51

But it is possible to score a 0 in an exam? Especially when she scored a C in the other paper done at the same time.
Surely there is some mistake with the marking. I have no faith at all in WJEC anymore!

ravenAK · 28/08/2015 15:46

LIZS - the reason we have left some D grades well alone in the past is that the local college runs some courses which require a D (& then the kids re-take English alongside the other stuff).

If it's a 'downhill with a following wind' D then getting it re-marked would be a waste of money - no chance you'd go from 151 UMS to the magic 180 on a re-mark. More to the point, you might end up with 149 & an E, & cost someone a college place. It's not quite always a nothing to lose situation, although always worth exploring the option.

Greenandblue123 · 28/08/2015 15:24

Hi Lizs
I have the breakdown of marks in her results which includes the A* and A for coursework, exam mark C and exam mark 0 - when combined these give the D overall.
The school is chasing WJEC to track down the exam paper. I don't understand how it could have been marked as a 0? WJEC have confirmed that the exam paper is logged as having been received.

LIZS · 28/08/2015 15:04

Has the school requested copies of the scripts? Do they still have a copy of the submission to compare? It is possible the coursework was moderated down. Last year Ds was predicted a* but was a few marks short, even with a remark. He also typed his scripts and I feel he didn't get full credit for spag as a consequence.

Greenandblue123 · 28/08/2015 14:49

My daughter was predicted A or B for English Language. Her coursework is A* and A.
She has got a D with the WJEC exam board, with one of her exam papers recorded as a 0.
She submitted both exam papers on a computer stick as she is dyslexic and works on a computer and one scored a C and the other a U (0).
We are trying to get this investigated as this has almost cost her the College place but so far have heard nothing from WJEC.

LIZS · 28/08/2015 08:00

You've nothing to lose really if she failed as without English Language her future options will be limited and she'll be required to retake or take another level 2 course anyway,

janinlondon · 26/08/2015 10:36

Beetroot - can I ask what board yours was please?

JanetBlyton · 25/08/2015 13:49

I'vem arked A level. You do your very very best to be fair and do it well but it will never be a 100% fool proof system

Ripeningapples · 24/08/2015 15:28

That begs serious questions about the efficacy of the entire system.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 24/08/2015 15:10

That's awful in itself.

Pranmasghost · 24/08/2015 15:09

Really

DoctorDonnaNoble · 24/08/2015 15:07

They rewarded a question not attempted? Really?

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