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AS remark History - how often does it make a difference ?

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orangetulip · 13/08/2015 15:06

DS (and his teachers) very disappointed with result. Predicted excellent grades, as happened for everything else, but 68 UMS for history module.
School advise remark - but really how often does it make a difference in Hisotry ? Hoping quite often, as I guess it's fairly subjective....any advice appreciated on those who've been there.. thanks ! It's Edexcel...

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orangetulip · 07/09/2015 12:12

Result.. Up by 10ums with a grade change, so pleased for DS but confidence in marking system in tatters

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LIZS · 06/09/2015 14:52

Ds mark went up by 3 ums but still short of a grade adjustment. He hopes to go through the paper this week but probable resit.

mateysmum · 06/09/2015 14:43

DS not got his history remark yet, but his friend has her English back - went from a C to an A (which is what she had expected.) Really pleased for her, but doesn't exactly give you faith does it.

Happy36 · 17/08/2015 16:02

travertine Well, even if the school decides against a re-mark, or the re-mark doesn't have the desired outcome, getting to see the paper and the way it has been marked is really useful in preparation for A2 exams.

travertine · 17/08/2015 15:18

Well in our case it looks like the school is going to request all the Tudor papers back to look at and then will possibly fund the remarking themselves because there have been lots of issues and concerns raised apparently. Not really good news but quite hopeful.

MyPelvicFloorTrainsItself · 15/08/2015 20:19

That makes sense, thank you for explaining.

Happy36 · 15/08/2015 20:00

With the statistics I've posted above from my school I should say that my school does EdExcel for all but 3 subjects and those 3 subjects have very small numbers of students taking them. We do not use OCR at all.

Happy36 · 15/08/2015 19:42

Sorry for posting twice (now three times!) I thought that the first response had deleted before submitting. Apologies.

Happy36 · 15/08/2015 19:41

Sorry for not being clear. Because at the end of Year 12 / AS , candidates don't have a grade, they have marks which will then be added to the marks they achieve at the end of Year 13 / A2 , the total then equating to their A2 grade. The students like to think of themselves as achieving grades at the end of Year 12, but actually they have accumulated marks towards their A2, (unless they stop studying the subject after AS and cash in the marks achieved for the units taken).

Happy36 · 15/08/2015 19:39

Sorry for not being clear. For AS the students have achieved a number of marks which will then be added to the marks they achieve for A2 to give their overall A2 grade at the end of Year 13 (or whenever they finish A2). The students like to think of themselves as achieving grades once they've done the AS part, but unless they stop studying the subject at that point and cash in their marks for the units they've taken so far, they have accumulated marks towards their A2.

MyPelvicFloorTrainsItself · 15/08/2015 17:49

Happy, why would there be no grade change for AS?

Happy36 · 15/08/2015 17:29

Sorry, I forgot to add above that if you cannot see the breakdown of marks by question online, then you should ask for the script to be returned before requesting the re-mark. Firstly, this will enable you to see whether it is worth getting the re-mark and, secondly, your son's History teacher can see whether he or she agrees with the examiner. (Also, your son can use it to help him approach his A2 History exams. better).

Happy36 · 15/08/2015 17:27

Hello OrangeTulip, are you able to see the breakdown of marks by question? (EdExcel offers this on their ResultsPlus website that each student can log into, but I don't know about other examination boards, sorry). If so, this is worth doing as your son can see where exactly he has lost marks. For example, if he has a particularly low mark for a question that is worth a large number of marks, then this would be reason to consider a re-mark, as he has scope to earn many more. On the other hand, if he has generally lost marks all over the paper, what could really be achieved by a re-mark?

At our school, our statistics for the last ten years show that 1 in 10 re-marks results in a MARK change and 1 in 42 results in a GRADE change (obviously for AS there would be no grade change). We have also seen 1 in 58 re-marks resulting in the mark going down.

UhtredOfBebbanburg · 15/08/2015 15:50

One of DD1's history papers was 'lost'. She was awarded a guesstimate mark based on the mark she got for the other paper - which she had totally messed up (by her standards - it wasn't a disaster mark on an absolute scale but it was significantly lower than she was predicted and expecting (before she sat the actual exam)). Luckily the exam board notify the school where a paper has been lost and a guesstimate mark awarded, and since she types all her exams the school still had the relevant memory stick in the 'exam store'. So they sent it off on Wednesday, and her new mark came back on Friday. 20 UMS higher than the guesstimate!

basildonbond · 15/08/2015 07:41

LIZS it's perfectly possible for a whole page or even a whole paper to go astray when they've been typed

When ds got his GCSE results his RS was a C - he'd got high A*s in 3 papers and a U in the fourth. His school queried it and it turned out the pages had got detached at some point after leaving school (everything checked before sent off) . Because he'd typed it there was still a copy of what he'd done on the school computer so that got sent off and his grade went up - it was all a bit chaotic though ...

travertine · 15/08/2015 00:17

Think ours is £33 for a remark, matesymum we are doing it for the same reason as you. Let's hope we all update and see what the results were.

LIZS · 14/08/2015 19:13

Ds reckons it is £40 ish for a remark unless it changes.

mateysmum · 14/08/2015 19:11

We have gone for a remark on 1 history AS paper. DS got the top mark in the school on one paper and the bottom on the other and doesn't think he did anything particularly wrong. We are getting the script back too, so that even if the mark remains he can learn something and then decide whether to resit. Fingers crossed.

Good Luck OP

chocolatespiders · 14/08/2015 19:05

My daughter got a C in History and thinks she was 2 marks off a B - she would like to ask for a remark. Does it cost?

orangetulip · 14/08/2015 18:54

Thank you all for your contributions - it is worryingly reassuring to know there are a few of us in the same boat... and good to know that there is a chance they would increase on a remark (or decrease I know) ...as travertine says, if it was that score really it'd be ok (ish!), it's just the suspicion of things being wrong that makes it hard to accept... we will see and I will update on outcome - also those of you in similar situation, good luck and do let us know what happens!

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LIZS · 14/08/2015 16:29

Teacher was in yesterday and suggested recalling the script to get to the bottom of it. Guess we won't hear before Monday now.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 14/08/2015 16:18

Many teachers don't come in at all during the holidays so may not even be aware of the results yet (don't understand that myself!), access varies school to school as well. Due to a previous data breach I would only get to see question scores if a student had their paper back and showed me. But that is OCR, not Edexcel.

LIZS · 14/08/2015 15:58

No he doesn't have access. I would have expected his teacher to have already checked it but things would have been pretty hectic!

FuzzyWizard · 14/08/2015 15:53

I can see mine on results plus already. If your son has a results plus login he should be able to check himself.

qualifications.pearson.com/en/support/Services/resultsplus-direct.html

If not a teacher at school should be able to check for him.

LIZS · 14/08/2015 15:22

Thanks fuzzy wizard that is helpful. At what point would a school have access to the mark breakdown by question? Some other subject papers have come back already so hoping this won't be strung out. Don't want to be clutching at straws for too long!