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Y8 DD being read sexually explicit fiction

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Cabbagesandcustard · 14/07/2015 21:30

A very dominant thick girl in my Y8 DD's class has got hold of a copy of Fifty Shades of Grey and has been reading it out loud to classmates at school, during break and lunchtimes. I'm pretty relaxed about sexual stuff in general and realise that we were all sniggering at Judy Blume's "Forever" at a similar age back in the 80s - but I'm less than thrilled at the idea my 13 year old being exposed to BDSM at school (as, I'm sure, are the parents of many other class members who are strictly religious - it's an all girls school with a very high proportion of ethnic minority students).
Should I speak to the Head of Year or am I overreacting?

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GinnelsandWhippets · 15/07/2015 13:30

I'm with Bertrand and canyouforgiveher. Totally inappropriate for the age and setting. And if adults just stop setting boundaries when kids reach 13 then they are irresponsible idiots frankly. 'Well they'll just read it/do it/drink it/smoke it anyway so I might as well ignore it' is shockingly lazy parenting.

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Nowfeeltheneedtopost · 15/07/2015 13:20

But canyouforgiveher, why can't the OP's DD just walk away? That is, presumably, what you would do if someone tried to read it aloud to you in your workplace. OP, I would have a conversation with your DD about why you don't feel it is appropriate and suggest she walks away.
I also don't understand why you would call the other girl "thick", nor the relevance of that insult to your question?

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mrstweefromtweesville · 15/07/2015 11:59

BertrandRussell, I don't need to be cool, I'm just practical. At fourteen I was reading Jean Genet, and I'd done a lot of preparatory reading before I got that far. At fourteen my dd was reading Irvine Welsh. I didn't become a French homosexual criminal and she didn't become a drug addict. Books are a great way of checking out life experiences you don't intend to have.

DoesItReallyMatter · 15/07/2015 02:09

I'd contact the school and let them deal with it how they see fit. I wouldn't give it much thought.

Canyouforgiveher · 15/07/2015 01:57

Oh and Judy Bloom's Forever is a great book

Canyouforgiveher · 15/07/2015 01:55

I'm with Bertrand Russell. I would ring the form tutor about this.

I don't get the "oh they will do it anyway" attitude to young teens. Or the "if it is sold in the corner store I can do nothing about it". In my experience (my eldest is 18) they do "it" less if you make it quite clear that it is not something sanctioned or approved of my family - right up to and including drinking alcohol.

Apart from anything else I would want to stick pins in my eyes if someone in my workplace decided to read aloud to me from 50 shades of grey at lunchtime (which I will freely admit I read without any judgemental "this is such crap" it is but that isn't the point of it is it?). Why should a 13 year old have to put up with it.

Maybe OPs teen is deeply uncomfortable and looking for an adult to stop the crap rather than be cool about it.

And also frankly the stuff discussed in 50 shades should not be seen as normal sex in a romantic relationship - and the idea of focusing on the fetishisation of wealth instead of the sex as a teaching moment for a young female teen - seriously??? that is your priority? I wouldn't want my girls (or boys) thinking that kinky shit was the norm for teens.

Flowers in the attic (which I also read passed around the class - not aloud, god forbid) was clearly written as fucking weird shit - no one expected anyone to be actually having sex with their brother ... in an attic .. after being imprisoned by their mother ..

but maybe someone might think reading 50 shades at age 13 that in 2 years time a boy wants to have anal sex with her or tie her up well that is fine isn't it.

no from me and I don't care how un cool I am as a result.

Lurkedforever1 · 15/07/2015 01:21

fanny hill was my favourite discovery, mainly because my ill read English literature teacher assumed that for once I was not being disruptive and instead politely discussing my current reading book with classmates and lending it round them, because she thought it was just the usual tame period drama.

ImperialBlether · 15/07/2015 01:14

Anyone else old enough to remember the Skinhead, Suedehead books? They were currency in my school. I remember when a girl got expelled and the teacher opened her locker and all those books fell out. Trouble was they belonged to others in the class - she'd borrowed them - and the teacher removed them all with a disgusted look (to read in the staffroom, probably.)

Lurkedforever1 · 15/07/2015 01:10

It's not the case of being cool, it's purely because limiting something like easily available literature just means they stop telling you, or at the least aren't open to discussion on the dodgy aspects. Just like when dd and her friends spent ages going through dictionaries to look up 'rude' words, it gave me chance to explain why the definition of rape, whilst containing that stages hilarious words like sexual and intercourse, was actually not funny and explain what it actually means, and 50 shades of shite is just an older level. Although I agree school with children that might not be emotionally mature or clued up enough isn't the time or the place

BertrandRussell · 15/07/2015 00:57

Oh, I wish I was as "cool" as you all. Oh, wait. No I don't.

OP- I would ring your dd's form tutor. 50 shades is entirely inappropriate for 13 year olds- and even more inappropriate for school. Describing it as "vanilla" in the context of young teens is just silly.

mrstweefromtweesville · 14/07/2015 23:50

If its only by another pupil, I wouldn't worry. If staff did it, that would be different.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/07/2015 23:47

When I was that age, we were passing round 'Forever' and the one where the babysitter had sex with the single parent dad. I don't think the sex in 50 Shades is any worse and tbh I can't think of anything less sexy than sitting in a group reading it aloud.

My only slight concern about 50 Shades is the fetishisation of money and the glorification of an emotionally abusive relationship but I'm guessing they're skipping those 'boring' bits or mocking them so I wouldn't worry too much about those either.

So, in short, I wouldn't be going to the teacher (but then I wouldn't be calling a child 'thick' either so I guess my values are quite different from your's and hence probably not that relevant).

PannaDoll · 14/07/2015 23:42

Seriously? I was pouring over the incest ridden Flowers in the Attic books at that age. I'd agree with those more concerned about exposing her to the appalling writing.

Whipnaenae · 14/07/2015 23:41

Why are you calling the other girl thick?

Lurkedforever1 · 14/07/2015 23:39

Actually should have added that while I wouldn't object to my dd reading it, I wouldn't want her making the decisions on which of her friends could. We have an 'old enough to know' rule which means if you're old enough to know something you're old enough to know when it's appropriate to share, and anything questionable I check with other parents first

YourKidsYourRulesHunXxx · 14/07/2015 23:36

Not something to be that bothered about in my opinion. She probably found it funny. Think to yourself- is she going to be scarred from it in ten years time? By all means have a discussion about it so that she understands that it's garbage just fiction, and that when she chooses to be sexually active she doesn't have to model herself on what she sees in the media

Lurkedforever1 · 14/07/2015 23:34

I'd been reading adult books at that age for years, and I'm pretty sure if my 11yr old dd got hold of fifty shades her and her best friends would spend ages taking it in turns to read it out loud and snigger at both the sexual content and the cheesey writing, although given the drivel like quality I doubt they'd do more than flick through to the rude bits. I'm not about to offer it her as recommended reading, but even now I wouldn't be concerned if she was in your dds situation.
'forever' I'd forgot that. For some strange reason my library insisted on parental written permission for under 12s and kept it under the counter. Even for kids like me that had cheerfully been checking out far worse from the adult section for years. I was hugely disappointed at how mild it was

UnsolvedMystery · 14/07/2015 23:34

50 shades is not what I would call explicit. It contains phrases like "down there" and his "lollipop"
I would have a problem with her reading such badly written utter shite where the hero is an abusive, controlling, manipulative stalker, but the sex wouldn't worry me at all.

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Janethegirl · 14/07/2015 23:19

If you haven't read the book I feel you are in a poor position to comment. I feel anything that gets today's kids reading is good.

Janethegirl · 14/07/2015 23:17

Lady Chatterley's Lover by DH Lawrence used to be considered not appropriate for schools!

CamelHump · 14/07/2015 23:14

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