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Shouting teacher....

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Hakluyt · 02/02/2015 14:46

I was in DS's school library today, and heard a teacher shouting from three closed doors away. I couldn't hear what he was saying, but it was obviously thqt he was shouting at one particular child, or a couple- it didn't sound, somehow, like a whole class rant (not sure how I know that, now I type it, but for some reason it was obvious). The child I was working with grinned and said "oh, there's Mr X off on one again"
Now I know Mr X, he is incredibly enthusiastic and popular teacher. My ds loves him and learnt loads when he was in his class. I knew he was a bit volatile, but ds found his classes exciting and lively. So maybe the shouting is just part of his style. But surely it shouldn't be?

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holmessweetholmes · 05/02/2015 09:47

And I really don't see why it would be a problem that it's audible in reception - because I think probably everyone else in the world knows that teachers shout sometimes!

holmessweetholmes · 05/02/2015 09:44

Ballroom .Yes, they certainly would! I mentioned this thread to dh, who is a deputy head (with excellent classroom management and tons of experience ). He went and then said cheerfully 'Oh it's great to have a good shout sometimes!'

emkana · 04/02/2015 22:52

So true Ballroom

BallroomWithNoBalls · 04/02/2015 22:25

If you spoke to the Head / a member of SLT about this, they would nod, frown, do a great sadface - then close the door and roar with laughter.

BallroomWithNoBalls · 04/02/2015 22:24

My word, this thread is unbelievable.

I can't believe it, a teacher shouted!

I just can't believe you are as deeply involved with the school as you think you are Hakluyt if this surprises you.

And you seem mostly concerned about him being heard in Reception?! So what? And why is it any of your business anyway? This thread riles me massively.

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 22:09

Still considering what to do about it being audible in Reception......

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emkana · 04/02/2015 21:57

In the post from 15.24 you said you were still considering what to do/not sure how to proceed.

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 21:45

If you read my post of 15.24 you will see that I actually had left it- but there were so many unpleasant posts I decided to respond to them. But hey, never let the facts get in the way of a good story!

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pieceofpurplesky · 04/02/2015 21:31

You don't listen do you OP. How do you know if it was a shout or a raised voice if you could not hear what was said?
Today I "shouted" for a good minute whilst reading a story to the class - anyone outside could have reported me for shouting - to entrance my audience.
There appear to be no other issues as DC says the teacher is good and popular.
You can't let it drop.
People have said ignore and it's not your job. People have said report it but it's still not enough for you. - hence me saying you seem like you want to get him fired.
Thank goodness the governors at my school are appreciative - we often have them in our lessons doing observations ..... But then OFSTED decided our kids behaviour was outstanding - and some of us shout. Hmmm

Quitethewoodsman · 04/02/2015 21:21

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 21:16

Well I wasn't thinking of taking him aside and saying "Mr X, are you feeling stressed- is there anything you want to tell me?"
Of course it's not for me to resolve personally.......

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 21:11

And it was not a "raised voice"- it was a shout that could be heard three rooms away through closed doors.

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 21:07

"you sound as if you want him fired"

Excuse me? Exactly where did you
get that particular bit of bollocks?

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pieceofpurplesky · 04/02/2015 21:03

But you are not listening to anyone. A thirty second raised voice where you couldn't hear what was said and a comment by a child that he was off in one again - a teacher who is liked by your child. You are totally and utterly over reacting. What you need to do is volunteer to help out in some classes with challenging children for a few weeks - all subjects, different teachers. Then I think you are qualified to comment.
And I was not being silly - you have built up some uber school where you are shocked to hear a teacher raised their voice for THIRTY SECONDS and you sound as if you want him fired (he would prefer that I can assure you than some know it all governor telling him he needs support)

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 20:54

And if a teacher shouted like this at a child with additional needs I would really have a problem........

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 20:48

Oh don't be silly. I said the behavior was good- not angelic!

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pieceofpurplesky · 04/02/2015 20:45

Hmmm
I teach many children with additional needs of all kinds and some are prone to outbursts - your school must be incredibly lucky if none of your disadvantaged, low ability SEND kids ever misbehave - you need to commission a TV show quickly - to show us all how you manage it with such good behaviour ... Or maybe you are not told which is why it is such a shock to hear a teacher shout ....

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 19:38

It's a school with a very challenging catchment, an extremely high % of children from disadvantqged backgrounds, a disproportionate number of lower ability children and a very high % of children with additional needs. So, a tough school. But it also has good behaviour and very little chair throwing. The two are nor incompatible, you know.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 04/02/2015 18:33

OP, in one of your posts further up you say "it's a tough school."

Your latest post includes "I repeat, behaviour is good at the school. We do not have the classes full of knuckle dragging chair throwers so beloved of the Daily Mail."

Which is it?

emkana · 04/02/2015 15:55

I'm a governor myself and have volunteered in various roles, and I don't share the disrespectful attitude toards those who give up their time. But still, I would hope you would take on board what has been said here about to put things into context. And I would certainly hope that you've had the training to know that neither as a volunteer nor as a governor is it your business to get involved with this teacher's performance in the classroom.

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 15:44

"I wouldn't be in my child's school, nothing worse than those dreadful parents who "volunteer" or shoehorn their way in any which way in order to nose, and then criticise."

Or, put another way, those dreadful parents who, as part of a well coordinated trained team of volunteers, get kids reading ages up by an average of 18 months in two terms.

Nothing like looking at things from different points of view, eh?

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emkana · 04/02/2015 15:40

It's not your role to get involved at this level, yes.

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Hakluyt · 04/02/2015 15:39

So if I had thought he sounded at the end of his tether, I just say "Not my problem- make sure you have your nervous breakdown in your own time"?

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