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Headmistress attacks parents in national press

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UpsetofWestLondon · 30/11/2014 09:15

Done first ever name change for this as don't want to be identifiable!

I am really, really pissed off. The High Mistress of St Paul's Girls' School, where I am a parent, has been widely quoted in the national press this weekend criticising parents at SPGS. I fully realise she may have been quoted out of context, but the quotes seem to apply to all parents at her school and the one that cuts to the quick is where she accuses parents of "affluent neglect" by not paying enough attention to their daughters in the evening.

I should say my DD is very happy at the school, does lots of things well and lots of things not very well but enjoys them so that's great. I adore spending time with her and the only reason I don't spend as much as I would like in the evenings is because of the extraordinary volume of homework she gets set by the school (and obviously the time she needs to spend on Facebook etc!).

I am glad Ms Farr is pro-children, and this is not the first time she has criticised the parent body, but at some point, if you continuously publicly criticise your paying customers surely you have to understand you will upset them? I feel personally attacked and concerned I will be judged by others negatively for being part if this vile parent body she describes. I am cross.

I almost want to post this in AIBU...but am I?

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granolamuncher · 03/12/2014 08:57

WF is right. Furthermore, amongst the super rich of West London, there are many families in which only the father goes out to work.

Anyway, OP's complaint at the start of this thread was that it was the amount of homework her DD had to do which deprived her of time to spend with her. It's hard not to sympathise.

TheWordFactory · 03/12/2014 08:47

The vast majority of parents in the UK have too little time for their DC, not because they have high flying careers, but because they need to pay the rent and put bread on the table.

There is a lot more working poor in the UK than rich professionals.

Mehitabel6 · 03/12/2014 07:29

I thought it was an excellent price. After love and security children need time- lots of time from their parents and many don't get it because they parents can't make it, their lives are too pressurised.

Mehitabel6 · 03/12/2014 07:26

Even if your parents are not pushing you to succeed it must be pretty scary to get a string of Bs and Cs when it is simply not done at that school. The expectation is that you are a high achiever or you wouldn't be there- once there you have to keep it up.

granolamuncher · 03/12/2014 01:09

OP My posts have been a bit glib and facetious. The concerns you have so well expressed are obviously sincere. Yes, of course you are an important stakeholder. You have a right to speak out. If you don't think Ms Farr is inspirational after all but do think she has displayed poor judgement and has upset parents, you should let that be known, especially when you are being asked to pay record breaking high fees.

Btw, I think it's the now astronomical level of the fees for these private schools that explains the press interest: journalists, like other salaried professionals in London, have been priced out in the last few years, so they are withdrawing their support. David Mitchell wrote quite a hard hitting piece about this in The Observer a few weeks ago.

UpsetofWestLondon · 03/12/2014 00:31

Bonsoir you are right about the value of a good relationship with your head of school: and whilst not a close one that was what I thought I had with Mrs Farr. Now how can I trust her, when she is smiling at me at a concert, I know she might be judging me inside. Uncomfortable.

And poisonwoodlife your note on inspirational heads who achieve great change is actually quite moving. I don't think that's what we are dealing with here though. And I have tried to avoid all personal criticism here - my focus is purely on the poor judgement inherent in criticising your parent body in a way which will inevitably end up in the press.

And yes, whilst there are probably ten parents waiting to take my DDs place if we pulled her out, I would argue I am still an important stakeholder in the school and if my DD thinks her headmistress doesn't approve of what I do, that has a deleterious effect on us all. There has apparently been much discussion in lessons yesterday and today about it so the girls are highly aware.

The press seems to be loving their private school stories at present - you can't move without reading an Andrew Halls story, or an SPS hoodie story or this. Is it something to do with the dying days of a Tory administration? Let's fire people up against them?

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Opopanax · 02/12/2014 22:34

And in a school like that the pressures to succeed are enormous

They're not! They're only enormous if your parents are making them enormous. I don't remember feeling any pressure at all when I was at SPGS. I did feel a huge sense of possibilities being opened to me.

What I've realised from reading this thread and thinking about it is:

a) Clarissa Farr is probably right if a bit cack-handed in the method of delivery.

b) Most of the pressures in a school like this come from parents not other children or the school, hence her comments.

c) If you are actually at the school or another school like it and relatively well-adjusted with parents who are kind to you and don't expect the impossible, the pressure will just pass you by. The children who suffer are just not supported in a good way at home.

d) The ethos instilled in a child is mainly achieved at home. If you model resilience, good sense, trying hard, helping others, being kind, using your natural talents, whatever is important to you , at home, then your child is likely to pick up on it.

I think there is a lot of absolute nonsense talked about schools of this kind, tbh. I know current pupils as well as having been one myself and I just don't recognise the hothouse stereotype that gets applied.

granolamuncher · 02/12/2014 21:27

Poisonwoodlife I do take your point. It's perfectly true that if you look at the "Ethos" page on the SPGS website, as I have just done, you get a photo of Ms Farr and a message signed by her. Perhaps she is indeed one of those inspiring heads who wants, as you say, to transform the school and take it in a new direction.

The 38% hike in fees in the last five years, as reported in the Sunday Times, might be part of her plan to change the parent body: perhaps she wants the school to be more financially exclusive than it was when she joined. If she thinks that will help to foster the warmth, fun, creativity, and laughter she says she's keen on, that's up to her, I guess.

OP's concerns about parents' relations with the head sounded reasonable to me but maybe I shouldn't bother to comment if, as you seem to be suggesting, the Head must know best.

Poisonwoodlife · 02/12/2014 20:21

And actually implicit in that agenda is that there are problems with the parenting of the pupils in those schools as well as issues with the environment they are brought up in...... So do we say all GSA Heads are guilty of undermining the relationship with their parent body? Every Head I have had experience of has returned from their conferences, be it GSA or the Headmasters' and Headmistresses' Conference with a report on what they have learnt and just as sometimes they were criticising the government, sometimes they were actually criticising modern parenting.......

Poisonwoodlife · 02/12/2014 20:14

Granola I made that exact point earlier in the thread, this is not a consumer product or service but an institution, parents are not consumers who have a right to expect to be served up "customer delight" but, albeit they are paying for it, parents of the pupils who attend a school with a particular ethos they have signed up to and that it is the responsibility of the Head to ensure is delivered. I only used the word product in the context of making a comparison with Ratner since OP had tried to argue it was a directly comparable event and should possibly result in the same outcome.

I do not agree that a Head is just the current caretaker though. Good Heads can and do transform schools, state or private, and they set the vision and strategies. Locally Latymer (previous Head) , LEH (the one before last, Miss Candy, who I gather took the school from being the very unremarkable private school attended by Lynn Barber and portrayed in "An Education" ), Godolphin (the previous Head), KGS (previous Head) have all seen what a difference a good Head can make to a school, inspiring the community, governors and pupils to take a school in new directions. I certainly noticed when my DD moved secondary school what a difference an inspiring engaged Head can make , and what an uninspiring one can do to dilute the ethos. Perhaps as one poster said up thread Clarissa Farr does want to change the nature of the parent body? Though actually I suspect she was just trying to share experience and good practise of a shared issue with fellow professionals (just as actually Ratner was doing). If you look at the agenda for the conference itself you will see that there was a lot of emphasis on the psychological well being of pupils. gsa.uk.com/annual-conference-2014-2/

granolamuncher · 02/12/2014 19:44

Poisonwoodlife, I'm interested by your comments about Gerald Ratner but SPGS isn't Clarissa Farr's own "product": it's a long established school, of which she is privileged to be the current head.

I sympathise with OP's concern about the head's relationship with the parent body. OP is entitled to make the observations she has posted here and should certainly feel able to raise them elsewhere. Ms Farr should pay attention to her relationship with parents, just as she no doubt takes care of her relationships with pupils and staff at the school.

Mehitabel6 · 02/12/2014 19:12

And in a school like that the pressures to succeed are enormous-how dreadful to get a B when they all get As.

Mehitabel6 · 02/12/2014 19:11

I read it and thought that it was quite true. Children need time -not quality time just time and lots of it-mainly parent time. Obviously there are exceptions like OP.

Bonsoir · 02/12/2014 19:04

Fayrazzled - you hit the nail on the head. There are schools that are clubs - for DC and their parents. Hence the huge stakes involved in securing a place.

Bonsoir · 02/12/2014 19:01

I mind very much whether I like the Head and find that a productive long-term relationship with a school is immensely difficult without mutual respect for and easy communication with senior management. Which we have, fortunately.

Fayrazzled · 02/12/2014 18:59

Poisonwoodlife- my comment about Yorkshire was neither here nor there really. It wasn't specifically about Yorkshire. It could have been Scotland, the Midlands, Northumberland, Shropshire, East Anglia etc etc. Really, as UpsetofWestLondon appreciated, my comment was regarding the very particular angst and hand-winging that accompanies a subset of London parents desperate to get their children into a very narrow 'club' of schools.

Which isn't to say that if you move to Yorkshire (or Scotland, the MIdlands, Northumberland etc) the schools are perfect. Of course they aren't. No-one would pretend otherwise. And of course, I understand the 'market' in London for education is very different to other places too. But, despite the angst and the competition, many parents wouldn't move out of London precisely because the very particular kinds of school that St Paul's, NLCS, Westminster, Gdolphin & Latymer are, don't exist elsewhere.

makemelaugh · 02/12/2014 18:49

But surely when we choose a school we want them to like our child and our child to like the school NOT the Head to like us. It won't put anyone off. You are paying to educate your child not to feel loved.

Moominmammacat · 02/12/2014 18:44

She wasn't misquoted. She said these things. If you don't want it reported, don't say it.

Poisonwoodlife · 02/12/2014 18:35

Actually as a fellow marketer I had heard Gerald Ratner make the same presentation at several conferences over the years, illustrating how they segmented their market and targeted their customer offer. It was usually met with interest, understanding and an appreciation of the wit (and you might well have just sat through some humourless corporate clone from Mercedes). The MD of First Direct used to deliver a similar witty rundown on their target customers and strategy for exploiting the market which their customers probably would not have wanted to hear. The difference was when Ratner's comments it made it out of the professional environment of the conference and into the very popular press that target the same market.

However Ratner was dependent on attracting his consumers to buy, Clarissa Farr is selecting hers from the very many who want to buy into her product, and as shown on here, many who buy into her words and want an authoritative Head leading the school. Big difference.

rabbitstew · 02/12/2014 18:00

To be fair, UpsetofWestLondon, however media savvy, in order to avoid a journalist misquoting you, you have to zip your mouth shut. Then you will be accused of uncharacteristic silence, instead! Better to say these things in a public forum and risk being misquoted than to have some journalist getting their hands on private letters you have been sending to other headteachers of other public schools, complaining about parental attitudes, which a delighted journalist could publish, instead under the heading, "What Headteachers Really Think of Private School Parents [but are too duplicitous to say]." Grin

OatcakeCravings · 02/12/2014 17:45

God the angst! It's interesting how other people live and the stresses they have. Move to Scotland and then send your kids to the local school. Jobs a good 'un! No head teachers moaning about parents in the Times here!

TalkinPeace · 02/12/2014 17:38

Hasn't St Paul's always been rather keen on publicity-courting High Mistresses? It's part of their 'thing' I think.
ROTFLMAO
That and they made one of the greatest recruitment clangers ever some years back hiring somebody without checking their references Grin

UpsetofWestLondon · 02/12/2014 17:22

MN164 you are right about the different elements of pastoral care. The most 'deprived' child I have seen (at another school) was the one with the richest parents - actually they were just neglectful in every way, no slowploughing for them. Thanks goodness for the role that successive schools played in that child's life as caring teachers certainly filled some gaps.

And I'd generalise your list for achievements as well as pastoral care - schools like these love to promote what their children achieve, but I now see that it is generally not the private school's work that is making the child the international athlete, film star or author - it is the family and the child first and foremost. Of course some teachers, some subjects, are life-changing, but in general the home background contrrbutes most.

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UpsetofWestLondon · 02/12/2014 17:13

Wordfactory I am liking your work on this thread. And laughing to myself because of course now all the hyper-comeptitive parents have got something else to be hyper competitive about - I can see the conversations at coffee mornings now 'Oh I let Isabella fail, it was so good for her, arent I a good parent!'.

"FayrazzledTue 02-Dec-14 13:35:47

There's much more to Yorkshire than decimated coal and steel industries. But of course, doesn't every place have its own stresses and issues? It's just I'm fairly sure 99% of Yorkshire's parents aren't fretting over what their child's HT may or may not have said to the press about the parent-body at their school, whilst simultaneously fighting tooth and nail to get their children into said school and paying handsomely for the privilege. It just all looks a bit, dare I say it, indulgent from the outside."

Fayrazzled - that did make me laugh! Thank you, you are very right. But I am still very annoyed.

A letter from Ms Farr did come yesterday basically blaming the unexpected presence of a journalist wanting to write sensationalist headlines for the incident. Like PPs earlier on the thread, I struggle to believe a savvy operator like Ms Farr was caught unexpectedly by the press, so don't believe her statement. But if it is true then that's worse as I would expect someone in her position to be prepared for the press to be there and speak accordingly whenever she speaks. So either disingenous or incompetent, methinks.

Several people have commented that if I dont like the head I should move my DD - but I think a school is much more than just the head, and my DD should choose where she goes, not me. But actually, I think if any business leader really pisses off their clients, at some point the board will and should remove them...am pondering whether this is a Gerald Ratner moment.

Ms Farr has invited us to speak to her at forthcoming school events but that is not the time or the place. I am considering whether to write, and if so, who to.

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Opopanax · 02/12/2014 17:09

That was a really interesting thread to read, especially as an old Paulina. Hasn't St Paul's always been rather keen on publicity-courting High Mistresses? It's part of their 'thing' I think.