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Year 6 Sat grades - what class would you expect?

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Neverenoughhoursintheday · 20/10/2014 21:52

Ds worked hard to get sat results 5 in all 3 subjects, being told by his primary teacher he would be in the top set at high school. His high school seem to have streamed form classes and then further streamed english and maths. In his form class he is in the middle set and is disappointed after working so hard.

Is gaining 5's just average and the norm in year 6 then?

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starfish4 · 21/10/2014 11:13

My DD got level 5 for all subjects. Her school assessed her previously at level 5.75 English, 5.5 Science and 5.25 Maths. She went into the top sets, but within a year, she had dropped to set 2 for English (what was originally her strongest subject), is still in top set for Science although she feels she should be in the set below, but is thriving in Maths. Most schools will re-assess them and as said before, there may be others who are just a little better or who have been taught extra things.

I know he's disappointed, but I'd say to be patient and see if he gets moved. If they are bright and happy to work really hard, then fine but as they get older the top sets in my daughter's school have a lot more homework - in years 7 and 8 they have to do an optional task from extension work, in Year 9 they have to do all three tasks on top of normal homework. She is being fast tracked for French and has to do a second language on top of the usual options they will take. She is in Year 9 and is getting an awful lot of homework (she was even doing it on Saturday when we were watching the XFactor) - to be honest this is fine if they want it, but personally I feel she needs a bit more personal time.

NikitaWhoWillNeverKnow · 21/10/2014 10:14

Level 5 in maths resulted in middle set ( set 2 out of 3) for my DD. And it was the right set for her.

Set 2 did Level 4 - 6 work. And set 1 did level 5 - 7 work.

Look at where they're pitching the work, and if it's the right level, rather than what set it is.

ReallyTired · 21/10/2014 09:32

Many secondary schools do a primitive iq test called CATS. This means a middle ability child who worked like a Trojan gets no benefit from high SATS results. The lazy bright child with level 4s may well be put in the top set. I avoided a school with a similar policy as I feel middle ability child who work really hard deserve their place in the top set.

At my son's school your daughter would be in the middle set as all the top set children have level 6s. Getting level 5s is very common these days.

Neverenoughhoursintheday · 21/10/2014 09:12

Thanks pointy, good point about being based around English - that would make sense

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pointyfangs · 20/10/2014 22:52

It depends - DD2 got a solid 5 for maths but is in set 2 of 4 - top set is all level 6. She's in top for everything else though, and isn't confident in maths (though she is good at it) so I feel this is the right place for her - the work is challenging for her but not unachievable IYSWIM.

However, at DDs' school subjects like History, French, Geography etc. are based on the English level as a lot of the work is about effective communication, so that is why she is in top set there. I wonder if that's the reasoning? It's worth asking.

DD2's school resets after half term, when CATs results are in and the teachers have had some time with the kids. Things may change quite a lot.

snice · 20/10/2014 22:20

In many schools the streaming for other subjects 'runs with ' the maths/english streaming for timetabling ease

Neverenoughhoursintheday · 20/10/2014 22:09

Thanks he is in the top set for maths, not for English - however that is his weaker subject he only scraped a 5 so thats expected. Its the other subjects he's in the middle set for, ie french, history etc. I believed these were also streamed, I need to check at parents eve how it works :/

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snice · 20/10/2014 21:57

depends on the schools but at my DDs secondary the top set of 6 for maths seems to be pretty much those who achieved level 6

BettyMoody · 20/10/2014 21:53

Depends on the school, and who is there.