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Fivechildrenandamenagarie · 27/09/2014 22:07

I am looking for a secondary school for DD. For 2017 13+ entry.
She is bright, friendly, artistic, strong willed and strong minded child.
We are south west based.
Any comments on the following school?

St Mary's Calne
St Mary's Shaftesbury
Cheltenham ladies college
Badminton

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PersephoneCluck · 22/01/2015 10:43

Re: St Mary's Calne and Leadership.
It seems to me that some parents fear change at the top. Personally I think it is a good thing! It's refreshing ; so difficult though to prove onself and make changes as a woman in a top girls' private school where the former head was so well liked!
Having two girls in the school who are happy and thriving I recommend it highly. My girls board and do not need any tutoring simply because all their teachers make themselves available for any extra help they might require. They also have some inspirational teachers who come from a wide variety of backgrounds.
I find the new head has a healthy attitude to building confidence in young women and she has made great yet discrete improvements to ensure that more girls enjoy the sciences at A level. I do not buy the previous person's comment that the new(ish) head doesn't mingle!
Schools always loose pupils after GCSE's for a variety of reasons. It's natural for some pupils to outgrow their school and want a change for the Sixth Form.
As a product of the state sector myself and with children who have been to a Girl's private day school, son at a top boarding school I see that no school is perfect. My feeling is that a girl can pack in sport, music drama all to a very high level
and still manage to produce excellent results in a healthy and happy environment at St Mary's.
In my experience, the tutor system works very well at St Mary's Calne. The girls see their personal tutor 1:1 every week and discuss academic and personal issues. I am frequently in touch by email with my daughters' personal tutors and feel heartened that they know my girls so well and are able to help to support them with any issue.
As a boarding school parent I do not expect the school to do it all- I'm still a pretty hands on parent and take an interest in what my girls study and try to attend concerts and sports' fixtures.
Btw Eton does have teachers who have come from the state sector too!

nettlefairy · 11/11/2014 23:16

Does anyone else have information about Westonbirt potentially closing? We are moving to Stroud and it's our first choice for the prep and then presumably the senior school so it's a bit of a concern. We really liked it and would probably go for it anyway for now but any information would be gratefully recieved!!

Bbmmas16 · 01/10/2014 09:23

The observation and point being made is that St Mary's Calne it is not a typical private school. It seems to have a socialist philosophy. 'Employment of so many teachers from state sector' just making point that it may not be typical of most well known private schools, but was certainly not intended to have a dig at state school teachers. Assisted places are called bursary places now - grey hair gives it away. Anyway, in response to the question for any comments on St Mary's Calne, Leadership appears to be an issue right now, and as before good if looking for a fee paying state school. This begs the question, since so many good state schools, not sure it would be my choice.
Crossandcrosser- agree about Sherborne.

crossandcrosser · 01/10/2014 08:55

I'm quite local to several mentioned. If I had a DD & was considering independents I'd go for Sherborne.

summerends · 01/10/2014 08:52

Bbmmas16 lots of excellent teachers from the state system are being recruited in top positions in the better independent schools. CLC for example has a new head of sixth form from the state sector. The assisted place pupils may well bring the academic standards up as well as benefiting the community as a whole. Without knowing St Mary's Calne, your remark makes me feel more admiration for the headmistress than otherwise. I hope that your social attitude is not prevalent there

MassaAttack · 01/10/2014 08:49

Teachers from state schools? Shock

Don't want to derail the thread but where do you think qualified teachers train, Bb?

The assisted places scheme went donkeys years ago, btw.

Bbmmas16 · 01/10/2014 08:16

Re St Marys Calne, I fear the Head lacks leadership skills, and out of her depth. She doesn't talk or mingle with parents at school events and seems to lack confidence for this- unlike the previous Head who made it her job to talk to every parent. Not sure whether the school is trying to become a 'socialist' school, but from Head's talks, employment of so many teachers from the state sector, and encouragement of so many girls on assisted places this is the message. Good if you may be looking for a fee paying state run school.

Fivechildrenandamenagarie · 30/09/2014 22:23

Thank you Happy. That is a very useful mind focusing post.
I am going to mull over options and logistics. Check out the train routes.

DD is yr 6. She has only just started at prep school so I am sure the head will advise in due course, esp when I quiz him.

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happygardening · 30/09/2014 13:20

Frankly I think the more you look at the more confused you'll become. Where does your prep school head recommend? Are you looking for boarding for all of you children? I would be aiming for one school for all of them unless you've got some really really different individuals.
We only looked at three schools for DS2, four for DS1 neither were going to be happy in each other's schools as they are completely different and DS1 would not have got a place at the sort of school we were looking at for DS2.
You need to decide what sort of ethos you're looking for, a Quaker ethos is admirable or do you want somewhere more pushy. Ethos is important and often difficult to work out. DS2's school is surprisingly liberal that suits us as we're slack liberal parents, but your not allowed to pick them up a day early at the end of term etc, frankly it doesn't bother me, but it might bother some, friends with DC's at other schools tells me about things that go on that would drive me up the wall particularly in relation to uniform (my particular loathing) but it's doesn't bother them. Do exam results/Uni/academi matter more than anything else when the chips are down or do you have other priorities? Perhaps regular Scheidiphones lessons are more important. If you have super bright DC's do you want super selective? Is there any particular sport your DC's and you want or don't want rugby is increasingly becoming an issue. What about extra curricular activities I listened to a mum telling me her DS is a mad keen basketball player but the particular school she choose doesn't offer it and a term later she's moaning about it! She like many just assumed they would. Do you want full boarding or weekly, surely your location will partly decide this? Proper full boarding is not that common now a days. Do you have good public transport links? Would this make your life easier if your DC's could get home by train on exeats/Saturday/Sundays etc I know it would make mine a million times better! Could you drive to two different weekly boarding schools every Saturday and back on Sunday evening? Do you realistically have the time to do this? We've couple of friends with DC's at weekly boarding they hadn't really grasped the fact that the schools were basically weekly boarding and moan about having to pick their DC's up every weekend. Do you want a big name, e.g. Marlborough often with matching fees stunning facilities or somewhere less well known and cheaper. Where does your prep traditionally send pupils too? What age are you DC's we only looked at three schools because they pre tested at 11+ if he'd not been offered a place at the two we eventually chosen them we would have looked at other but we felt there was no point in looking at less selective schools until we knew if would be necessary. Frankly I'd forget single sex or coed issue for the moment and decide exactly what you want and what would work for you.

Fivechildrenandamenagarie · 30/09/2014 12:50

I know it is a very diverse list.
I went to a Quaker school, though not in this country, and loved the ethos. I stumbled across Sidcot (I had not heard of it) I am quite curious and open minded. I liked going to a smaller school but DH went to a large school and he sees a value in that.

Nieces, nephews and cousins went to both Bryanston and Marlborough.
I'm not sure about either esp Marlborough I don't think it served my bright cousin well but I need to rule them out.

I suppose I feel the more schools we go and see the more we will work out what we like and and what we are looking for in a school.

I have so many children all with very different personalities that even though it would be much more convenient to have them all in one place, I'm not sure that would be the best thing for them.

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happygardening · 30/09/2014 11:30

Bryanston is basically a weekly boarding school friends have just removed their DC because of this.

happygardening · 30/09/2014 11:27

Day not Fay who ever she is!

happygardening · 30/09/2014 11:27

Interesting choice of very different schools e.g Sidcot, Quaker School with a Quaker ethos, fees £24k + a mix of day flexi boarding not particularly selective, only 400+ pupils in senior school only 160+ boarders and Marlborough a big school, academic, nearly 1000 pupils, basically a full boarding school with a handful of Fay pupils, uber smart, lots of Aristocracy/ European Royals and fees 33k+ is this just a distance thing or are their reasons behind you choices?

Fivechildrenandamenagarie · 30/09/2014 10:34

I will definitely go and see some co-ed schools too:
On my list in not particular order and some breaking my 1.5hr rule:
Rugby
Shrewsbury -I know only just co ed
Dean close
Sidcot
Bryanston
Marlborough

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summerends · 30/09/2014 09:17

Girls' schools in the independent sector include those with the better academic results but I suspect from what I have heard the selective girls' schools give more homework and work them harder than co-ed or boys' schools. Since girls are mainly wanting to please and do well that regime may work best without the more slack boys Smile.

I think a confident, strong minded girl would fare well in a co-ed environment. If she had a leaning towards physics for example then she would not have to mind being in a relative minority of girls doing that subject in the sixth form. However there may be a larger pool of potential friends in all girls' schools just because of numbers. IMO girls' schools allow more variety of characters to develop without being self conscious and therefore actually have more 'non-girlie' girls.

happygardening · 30/09/2014 07:18

I also thought girls doing better in girls schools boys doing better in coed didn't apply to the independent sector?

Dustylaw · 29/09/2014 23:11

Re girls doing better at all girls' schools, I just don't think that is the case (sorry, don't want to open a big debate on it). The evidence has never seemed that convincing to me once you get through the difficulty of comparing like with like and allowing for other factors. Why not visit some co- ed schools. That will enable you to judge the girls' schools against a wider benchmark. Also, ask them the question and if they can't produce examples of girls who have achieved what you would want for your daughter then fair enough.

Fivechildrenandamenagarie · 29/09/2014 22:23

Tall not talk. Damn predictive text.

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Fivechildrenandamenagarie · 29/09/2014 20:54

Thank you all so much. I will look up those suggestions.

It would certainly make more sense for them to go to the same school but.... an ex headmistress we know is adamant that girls do better at all girls schools. I'm not entirely sure about that but thinking back to how I was she may have a point! Also as DD & DS1 are very close in age (1yr) and she has another two younger brothers, I'm not worried about her not being able to talk to boys.

Mainly I would like a school that will get the best from her and engage her intellect and inspire her with learning. Not at all a talk order. Haha.

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MassaAttack · 29/09/2014 16:31

What's Monkton Combe like? I have friends with boys there who seem happy enough, although they're day pupils. I think it's quite churchy.

Sorry if I'm bombarding you, Op!

happygardening · 29/09/2014 14:08

OP wouldn't it make sense to send both to the same school? Life surely would be so much easier for you. Only one school to visit for matches, parents evenings, school functions, picking up at weekends end of term etc.
What about Dauntsey? It seems popular with many in the area. Or Sherborne (I know little about it) of course has a boys and girls school I believe they come together for socials but also in the 6th form?

Gunznroses · 29/09/2014 09:37

Oh yes, just seen it further down, sorry!

MassaAttack · 29/09/2014 08:51

And her ds1!

Gunznroses · 29/09/2014 08:25

Massa OP is looking for a school for her DD!

MassaAttack · 29/09/2014 08:17

Fair enough happy. Op is also looking for a school for her son; I was thinking the proximity of Royal High to Kingswood might be useful, especially if they're going to be weekly boarders.

30 miles or whatever in opposite directions would be a real pain I'd have thought.

Op, I don't have a child at boarding school so mine isn't an informed opinion.