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Maths setting advice

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YoungJoseph · 21/09/2014 08:35

DD and her friend have been put in one of the lower abililty maths groups (3 of 4) at their new comprehensive. This has come to a surprise to us as they did well in their SATs-4a / 5-these weren't surprise scores, these were as expected over the time spent in primary.
I work in the school and I find these groups tend to have more challenging behaviour and lower expectations (which seem to lower as time goes on). Her group has also been given a NQT to teach them. Experienced teachers are teaching the top groups grrr
In my experience the groups aren't divided equally either, so the top sets will be rammed full whilst the lower sets have fewer children, so the opportunity to move groups is limited.
I am disappointed that her hard hasn't put her in 2/4.
It's not just her SATs result either, my knowledge of her and of the sets would have put her in the second from top group.
Clearly I have my view from working at the school which is one sided I suppose so any advice or experience is welcome.
DD isn't unhappy btw, I don't want to interfere and make the situation worse.

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Preciousbane · 21/09/2014 09:06

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spanish11 · 21/09/2014 09:05

My son was in set 2 out of 4 and he got level 6 in year 7. In February he moved up to set 1. He told me there are children working at level 7a.he is a 7c.

YoungJoseph · 21/09/2014 09:04

Yes, she's taken CATS and yes I know it could be a bright year. I never pushed her because it seemed that she was doing well in her maths and I thought she'd end up in the 2nd group. I've never compared her results with my friend's children either, so I took her result at face value.
If the groups are correct it means that more than half the children in her school have at least a level 5, ie well above the expected level. It's a comprehensive not a grammar.
This doesn't seem right especially with my experience of working in the school.

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AuditAngel · 21/09/2014 08:52

I wouldn't assume top half on a 4a - 5 at year 6, DS got a 5 at the end if year 5. He is now struggling with the huge jump in work being set in year 6.

paddythepooch · 21/09/2014 08:52

Good schools should review sets regularly. Ours are all reviewed at least every term and a major reshuffle is about to take place three weeks in to y7.

The targets should also be just as challenging regardless of the starting point.

Personally I would probably hold fire for now and see if work is at the right level. If it isn't then that should become obvious and there is a stronger case to be moved up.

Btw I don't think the behaviour is always better in tops sets. Dd is currently in top set maths where the general level is c6 or higher but some of the reported chat back to teachers is appalling. From over indulged mc brats.

Preciousbane · 21/09/2014 08:43

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