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DD forced to do X number of GCSEs subjects?

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lora200 · 18/07/2014 14:48

DD will enter Year 10 in September and wants to study medicine at university (further down the line).

DD will do 7 'curriculum' GCSEs:

  1. English Language
  2. English Literature
  3. Mathematics
  4. Biology
  5. Chemistry
  6. Physics
  7. Religious Education

... and 3 optional:

  1. Spanish
  2. Geography
10. ICT

School however wants her to choose another optional subject saying the all of the students choose 4 optional. I argue that this could be the case but most students do not take triple sciences hence it makes them for them to study 4 optional.

Surely the school (state comprehensive) can't force my DD to take up a forth optional GCSE? We are talking of subjects here that do not interest DD at all such as Business, Food Technology, Resistant Materials, PE etc.

We are in talks with the headteacher about this but have not heard back yet.

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mrscog · 18/07/2014 19:17

I think you're being a little narrow minded about the usefulness of a D&T subject. Mine was one of the most useful I did wrt the real world, thinking about project management and specifications for products (be they wood, food or textile!).

Seriouslyffs · 18/07/2014 19:14

She should do whatever is most attractor from that
crappy list and not turn up for the exam, she'll get a U and it literally will not exist.

Lonecatwithkitten · 18/07/2014 19:09

It baffles me how many schools expect them to do now, took 8 GCSEs in 1989 and I'm a vet. There seems to be a continual one upmanship from schools to do more and more GCSEs, really wrong in my view.

Coconutty · 18/07/2014 18:54

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nigerdelta · 18/07/2014 18:46

Um, having looked at Med School entry requirements not every MED school will require all A/A* in all GCSEs. They just don't. Maybe those MED schools aren't acceptable to OP. Which means aiming for an extremely high bar or nothing, I guess.

Mandatorymongoose · 18/07/2014 18:41

DD (same age group) will be doing:

English
Maths
Science (*3)
RE
IT

Her optional choices were:
Geography
Resistant Materials

She also should have a language option but because she's top set is forced to do French GCSE in year 10 and then Spanish in year 11.

I'm not sure if English / Maths are dual award or single.

DD hates languages and is constantly astounded that she gets good grades and in all honesty she would have happily dropped at least one.

Choosing 3* Science meant she couldn't do certain other subjects (I think drama, PE and erm something else) due to timetable clashes.

TeenAndTween · 18/07/2014 18:28

morethanpotatoprints 6 GCSEs aren't really enough broadly speaking. Schools now get measured on 'best 8' (or something like that).

(Though of course for lots of things 5 A*-C is the minimum needed)

Knottyknitter · 18/07/2014 18:04

Thinking back a bit (1995)

I did
2 English
3 sciences
2 maths (but over two years, so did one in 94)
Geography
Music
History and appreciation of music
French

So eleven. Then three science A levels and AS maths, plus A level general studies.

Then medicine. Worked in surgery for a long time and now training as a GP. In retrospect, business would have been a good one, as very little time is available for the running a business side of being a modern GP (responsible for staff, tax, stock, buildings etc as well as the day job if a partner)

I remember thinking about doing GCSE PE in sixth form, as there was quite a lot of physiology on the syllabus, but it was no loss to leave it. Choose something fun that uses a different bit of brain, and be ready to use it in other things (one of my hist. App. Music essays got me an A in general studies two years later, and that A helped me into med school!)

morethanpotatoprints · 18/07/2014 18:01

I don't think you have any choice in the matter as the school decide.
I think that 6 are plenty but haven't found a school happy to do this yet.
I think 8 is the least I have come across yet and that's a specialist school so can do fewer here.
My ds did 10 or more, its ridiculous and only for the schools benefit, once again not the children's.

ThinkIveBeenHacked · 18/07/2014 17:55

We did three separate sciences at our school (state) and were expected to do 13 subjects. no exceptions. Everyone managed it. What difference is it to her to do eleven not ten?

bigTillyMint · 18/07/2014 17:52

Absolutely 3littlefrogs - couldn't agree more. Luckily DD has kept up a sport that she has been doing since she was 5/6, but I agree that there's no wonder she is stressed as she has so many plates to spinAngry

ChickenFajitaAndNachos · 18/07/2014 17:51

DS2 found ICT pretty easy and had achieved the equivalent of an A my March of year 11 and then used the time to revise for his other subjects.

3littlefrogs · 18/07/2014 17:50

15 GCSEs is just ridiculous.
IMO it is much more important to have time to do something interesting outside school - a sport or something musical for example. Looks much better on a CV than a string of GCSEs - especially if the grades are mixed.

ChickenFajitaAndNachos · 18/07/2014 17:49

Does the triple take up 3 timetable slots or is it squashed into 2?

3littlefrogs · 18/07/2014 17:47

We were in a similar situation.
I would just go with the flow in year 10, then drop one in year 11.
Don't they do ICT in one year anyway?
IME a lot of kids drop one subject at the end of year 10. It isn't such a battle at that stage.

I agree, 10 As are better than a mix of 11 As, As and a B.

bigTillyMint · 18/07/2014 17:43

Well, think yourself lucky. DD was doing 15 GCSE's until we said that she was dropping 2 near the end of Y10. So she is now doing 13Hmm

HappyHairDay, I think you are thinking that the double award is the same as triple science. For the double award they do study the 3 sciences but to a slightly lower level than for the triple.

FWIW, I did food tech (known as domestic science (cookery) back in the Dark Ages) and it was the hardest one!

titchy · 18/07/2014 17:41

Assume triple is three separate?

titchy · 18/07/2014 17:40

She's done very well for a non native speaker! I assume you're looking at private 6thbforms then - even the most competitive of grammars would be happy with 10 A or A* and a B especially with her background and attending a school with relatively poor results.

lora200 · 18/07/2014 17:34

Single science = 1 GCSE
Double science = 2 GCSEs
Triple science = 3 GCSEs

RE is combined with Citizenship and worth 1 GCSE

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lora200 · 18/07/2014 17:24

DD had to pick either History or Geography as these two subjects were in the same selection group.

We originally thought of GCSE PE but based on the discussions we had with the head of PE it is totally unlikely that any girl could command A* or A unless she goes to competitions on a national level. The head of PE actually bragged about how rigorous they are in their markings so as not to get in trouble with Edexcel (uhm, okay...).

In fact, the school where DD goes to has not produced one student in the past years who would have gotten A* or A in PE -- even though that DD is very fitness-y as she did athletics for a few years.

Since DD wants to study medicine we are only targeting As and As and I can't see how an 11th GCSE subject would help her with our plan. Competitive sixth forms will favour applications who have 10 A - A as opposed to someone who has 10 A* - A and a B or C. Not to mention the additional strain an 11th GCSE subject could potentially put on DD.

To put this in context; DD came to the UK two years ago from a non-English speaking country where she attended a bilingual school from an early age. That said we'd be perfectly happy with 10 A* - A GCSEs and I cannot comprehend why a school would insist on doing 11 GCSEs especially we are not talking about a core subject.

Also consider that the school DD goes to does not produce many A - A results and they will only talk about A-C results which says in a lot in itself.

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MillyMollyMama · 18/07/2014 17:20

PE is the best option by far and med schools actually like it.

HavantGuard · 18/07/2014 17:05

You could always say she'll pick another option if they can offer her a subject worth studying.

ElephantsNeverForgive · 18/07/2014 17:04

Pity there isn't drama DD1 enjoyed drama, although it was hard work.

I do agree the whole do something for fun, is a problem for would be medics who don't want 10 A/A* and a B on their applications.

History is a good solid, get an A if you like writting subject, but History and Geography is tedious to do. I did both, to avoid MFL (our French dept. were rubbish and I wanted a clean sweap of good grades for a science degree). I got distictly fed up revising them.

titchy · 18/07/2014 16:59

PE would be a good choice actually,as the pp says.