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Sports Day for the non-sporty kids...is this fair?

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SadAboutTheBoy · 16/06/2014 17:29

DS age 11 - one of youngest in his year - in first year of Senior School, so first Sports Day at the school.
He's quite a quiet, sensitive little boy, and hasn't found Senior School easy.

He's not good at sport (not as big/strong as the other kids in his year), and knows it. He is quite good at techy stuff and music etc.

So he comes home today and says that everyone has signed up for things for Sports Day, but that he isn't doing anything, and has been told he is to be a 'Reporter' - and that he has to write up a news report of what happens on the day.

I sensed that he was a bit upset and there was more to this, so probed a bit, and found out the following:

  • the lists were being drawn up and co-ordinated by 6th formers in the same house (not teachers)
  • they asked for volunteers for each event.
  • DS said he volunteered for '7 or 8' different events, but on each occasion someone from his year group shouted him down and said ' No, don't put [DS] down for that, he's crap/ no, let me do that one, I'm much better/ oh God, we'll never win if you let him do that' and so on... Sad

There were 3 or 4 of them (out of about 40 in his House) who were told there was 'nothing left' for them, and that they could be 'reporters'.
They are meant to write up a report after the day and hand it in the next day. The next day is the last day of term,so I don't believe this report will be used/read.

I am really angry about this. DS is trying to shrug it off, but I can tell he was upset.
I don't care that he isn't doing an event (although I thought that was the point of Sports Day?) but I do think this has been handled incredibly insensitively.

Do I mention it to his teacher/ Head of year/Head of Sport, or just let it lie?
I did think I might just tell them I'm taking him out of school that day and go and do something fun instead!

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MillyMollyMama · 17/06/2014 20:56

I did not realise there was rounders and cricket too. That puts a slightly different perspective on it. I assumed it was athletics on sports day. How can the children do all these activities on one day?

However, at my DDs school, those with the most aptitude were selected for what they were good at and no-one was humiliated. My non sporty DD1 thought this was good although as House Captain she had to run 800m when there was a no show from a day girl. I heard parents laughing at her because she was last and slow! Her team applauded her because she got the points for being last! Every point counts! The point I was making, rather clumsily is that Sports Day is seen, in a senior school, as the day the sports stars are on show in front of their parents and peers. It is their day. At my DDs school they made a big thing of "sport for all", that is until the House would not win the cup by including the non sporty ones or the badminton team of less sporty girls lost all their matches and the team was largely replaced with sportier types. Yes, the girls did feel left out and rejected, no it was not fair, but, unfortunately schools will do this because they are independent. He may just have to take this on the chin and shine at other things. My non sporty DD organised and choreographed the winning Haka! She can't run but she could get the whole House working together in joyous scary defiance!

MRSJWRTWR · 17/06/2014 10:26

My DS would also see this as a result but he has never wanted to have his lack of sporting ability on public show. However, I can see that it is unfair that your DS wants to take part but has not been given the chance to, especially given the inclusive ethos of your school.

This year DS was 'told' he would have to do the 800 or 1500m - he has negotiated with those making the decisions (House Captains etc) that he will do the house maths competition for them instead Smile

SixImpossible · 17/06/2014 09:39

I think the issue really is not about participating in sports say, but about being humiliated when you attempt to participate.

BravePotato · 17/06/2014 09:30

what verbal abuse? I missed that

Verbal Abuse should be dealt with, talk to the school.

Or do you mean the older kids saying your DS isn't very good? That is not nice, and I'd hate that, but not sure it is verbal abuse?

HercShipwright · 17/06/2014 09:28

Sad - I know what you mean. DD1 has been in a national ensemble for 4 years now. This year is the first year she's been profiled in the regular messages to parents about achievement. We hear about what seem to me quite minor (regional) sports successes all the time. Hey ho. At least they are paying attention now.

Alpha sports families do tend to shout very loud.

SadAboutTheBoy · 17/06/2014 09:23

Thanks - all good, helpful responses, and yes, quite a lot of what I was thinking anyway.
Always useful to have the debate on here, rather than firing off an email late at night, only to regret it the following morning!Wink

I know I sound like an overprotective Year 7 mum, but I actually have a DD further up the school, so my response is partly because I don't remember this being a problem with her.

The school has changed quite a bit since she joined - was previously very academic/ music/ arts/ community, and sport was good, but not the best in the area, and I expect they were probably losing applicants to other schools as a result. So in the last year there were some senior sport teaching appointments, and now it seems that all we hear about is sport, sport, sport all the time. It's very dull.

I also find the idea that every child who isn't into competitive sport must be secretly striving to get into a sports team silly - it just isn't the case. I think that's part of the problem - the 'alpha sports' families just don't understand that there can be plenty of other fulfilling aspects of life, thank you.
Nor does 'not into team sports' automatically= unfit or lacking in competitive spirit.
DS is ambitious for other things. He wants to be top in certain subjects, he wants to have a lead role in a school production (VERY competitive in auditions), he wants to win a film-making competition. But these things don't get profiled and paraded like sport achievements. Last term he was the only First Former asked to perform in the end of term concert, but only the parents and other students performing would know that. Unlike Sports Day, attendance at the Spring concert isn't compulsory for the whole school!

He and I aren't particularly bothered that he isn't in an event, but I don't think that at 11 he should have to be subjected to such verbal abuse.
And how sad that this experience will probably ensure that he just doesn't bother with either PE or games in the future.
Nor do I think attendance at Sports Days should be compulsory for those kids just left sitting around.

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scarletoconnor · 17/06/2014 08:43

Hi op I think before you contact school you need to make it clear to you ds that there are massive differences between sports day at primary and sports day at secondary school. He's only just starting out at high school so will have no idea how senior school sports days work.

At primary school the focus of sports day is all on having fun and taking part.
At secondary school the focus seems to be more on competition and ego.

My poor dsd who is not very sporty herself insisted on being a part of sports day in yr 7 thinking it would be like primary school sports day. She ended up getting abuse from all the alpha sporting types when she came last. It really knocked her confidence.

You have already mentioned your ds is quiet and timid, would he be able to handle it well if he came last and then got abuse from all the other children for not winning? Especially more so if one of the alpha sports types got taken out of a race and replaced by your ds.

Imo he's had a lucky escape but then again I did everything I could to get out of sports day at school I was definitely not one of the sporting superstars Grin it probably doesn't feel that way to him.

I think the reporter thing is a bit crap though. Do the whole school get out of lessons on sports day to watch? If so can he do his report while he is watching as I'm sure it will get a bit boring for him watching all day.

I'm sure at my dsd's school sports days non competing children are supposed to do some work though I know they dont even ask for it the next day so she doesn't bother now. Wink

HercShipwright · 17/06/2014 08:25

My DD2 has been the fastest runner every year in primary school. She still hates sports day. She won't be doing it this year - they let her get in such a state with heatstroke last year she ended up in hospital (not the only time that term either) so we've all agreed that she will be best served not doing it this year. She is very happy. She is doing a 3K fun run next week though (because we can be there for that and keep an eye on her). And it won't involve her being outside all day.

Phaedra11 · 17/06/2014 08:14

Herc, I'm sure you're right. Every child's different. Every school's different.

My two, decidedly non-sporty, DC loved primary school sports days but they were as much about "egg" and spoon races, sack races, tug of wars and having fun, as who was the fastest runner etc.

HercShipwright · 17/06/2014 07:57

Phaedra astoundingly not all Y6s enjoy or want to be involved in sports day.

Phaedra11 · 17/06/2014 07:52

Just wanted to qualify my last post by saying that before contacting the school, I would talk to my DS and make sure he was happy with that and I that I knew his definite feelings about it all!

Phaedra11 · 17/06/2014 07:42

I think those who have queried why OP's son would want to take part when he is "non-sporty", are forgetting how young he is. As one of the youngest In Year 7, he is only a few months away from some of the older Year 6s, currently having a lot of fun at Primary School Sports Days, whatever their sporting ability.

My DC, 16 and 13, are not sporting types and would now be happy to avoid these events but at that age, DS1 especially, would have felt exactly as OP's DS does.

Sad, I do still think this is more likely due to bad organisation by the sixth formers, than a deliberate attempt by the school to exclude a vulnerable few. If I was you, I really would contact the school.

If the school really did intend this kind of outcome, I would question whether it was the right school for my child.

Rideronthestorm · 17/06/2014 07:31

Neither DSs was in the least interested in sport and would have loved to not have to do sports day. Unfortunately both were quite good and were forced into it, although both refused to be in school teams because of all the after school practices.

They chose to be involved in drama and music after school and you can't be involved in everything. The HT was fine with it but the PE teachers gave them both a hard time.

It's sad for your DS because he wants to take part but if you insist that he is included that will mean someone already down for an event will not be able to do it and he may not take that well.

The organisation is at fault so, if you have a word, ask for it to change next year but leave it to stand this year, maybe.

BeckAndCall · 17/06/2014 07:15

I'm sorry but you just have to get used to the fact that sports day is mainly for the sporty - like exam season is best enjoyed by the academic types and music concerts are great for the musical. Not every child is good at everything.

You will develop a thicker skin and your DS will get used to it and will find his own way. But this first year of the expereince is difficuly, I'm sure. I remember feeling keenly for my kids in similar circumstances.

Spoken as one with 3 DC who have gone through very sporty indie schools and never been picked for anything on sports day. And would have hated coming last if they had have been picked. They have non sporty friends too with whom they could hang out under a tree. Or cheer on their sporty friends as they had their day to shine.

HercShipwright · 16/06/2014 23:52

Hakluyt - why? The OP has told us the prevailing attitude amongst the sporty PE types at her DS's school. Most posters in this thread don't like it either. Rightly so - it stinks.

Hakluyt · 16/06/2014 23:48

"He doesn't like the people and the attitude that tends to go with it."
Ah. My sympathy is starting to ebb away......

HercShipwright · 16/06/2014 23:48

Liking different things to (some) other people is not 'missing out'. It's being an individual not a sheep. I'm a runner myself, but I understand that it's not for everyone. What I don't understand is how some people can fail to grasp this simple fact.

fridayfreedom · 16/06/2014 23:47

Team sport is fantastic to those who enjoy it. It doesn't mean that he won't have team spirit in other areas of life and not liking team sports will not hold him back.

willowisp · 16/06/2014 23:44

I think everyone has the ability to be sporty - get him out running, if he's a good cyclist, he's got an advantage.

I think it goes a bit deeper, now you've said he doesn't like the ra ra of it. I expect he enjoys praise & reward for academic work ? Perhaps what he doesn't like, is not the sport, but the fact he's not good at it ? Perhaps your & DH's attitude re-enforces this ?

Team sport is fantastic & he's missing out with this attitude...which will follow him where ever he goes.

fridayfreedom · 16/06/2014 23:39

Maybe he could write his report about his experience about how children were picked for the races and how he was excluded and whether that fits in with the ethos of the school?

HercShipwright · 16/06/2014 23:24

Not liking school PE != not being fit. DD2 spends 6 hours a week in dancing lessons and quite a bit of time dancing outside those formal lessons. She also swims at least once a week and surfs and skims in the summer months. She would rather put her eyes out with a blunt fork than engage in school PE, or sports day.

lljkk · 16/06/2014 23:22

... just talking to DD who is also up stupidly late about how her sports day organised.

Kids went to sports house captains (yr11s) & signed up for what they wanted (had to argue why they were good at it). Only so many competitive spaces so the rest do no sport but have specific jobs allocated to their forms. DD's form is to lead chants, she is busy making up rude rhymes about the other houses.

So yeah, plenty other ways to organise sports day that don't have to highlight individual weaknesses.

SadAboutTheBoy · 16/06/2014 23:15

Willow - "why isn't he sporty" er... because not everyone is!

Believe me, we've tried... football, rugby, cricket, swimming... Team sport just isn't his thing. He doesn't like the people and the attitude that tends to go with it.

Just because he doesn't enjoy team sports doesn't mean he's not fit though. He's a very good skiier, enjoys cycling (and can easily out-cycle me uphill these days). He just dislikes the ra ra ra competitive thing.
But then so do DH & I, so no suprises there Smile

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lljkk · 16/06/2014 23:14

A really confident kid would have said "Yeah, I don't like doing sport, is there anything else I could do instead?" and then they would have offered him the reporter instead & he might have been happy feeling that he chosen that rather than it being foisted on him. So being assertive would have helped him so much.

Or maybe the races could be doled out only so many events per person, so that the same few best athletes don't dominate. That part would bother me a lot if it is what happened. I notice in the athletics DD does that everybody seems to do the same number of events, even though a few of the kids are hugely better at everything than nearly all the others.

willowisp · 16/06/2014 23:07

I'd be inclined to have a chat with the school about it - it's not encouraging for the kids that haven't shown promise...& how will they if no-one encourages them...on the other hand, why isn't he sporty ? What are you doing to support him ? everyone benefits from getting their heart beat going & (in my experience) with a bit of regular effort, you'd be surprised at what achievements can be made & it's fantastic for self esteem.