'State schools are creating amoral children'

I'm not sure the head said states schools are making children amoral, rather that freed up from government interference and obsession with results independent schools have more time to enable children to fully develop their moral compass.
From looking at the website and watching to the slightly naff video of this heads school, this is clearly their implication in particular that the determination and discipline of pursuing and extra curricular activity helps strengthen a moral compass.
Is it possible (thinking out loud) that smaller classes with a less prescribed curriculum free staff up to spend more time discussing things like morality? Do schools really play that big a role? I suspect bigger than we'd like to acknowledge. Does the relentless pressure to succeed seen in both sectors actually encourage bad behaviour and in fact harm a child's developing moral compass?
I really don't know the answer to these question just posing them to see what others thing.

So, I would rather say, I disagree with you, Bonsoir.

Although to be honest, I actually think it is rude and arrogant in the extreme to tell someone to go back and revisit their thought processes, rather than bother to argue the toss with them or just agree to disagree...

Bonsoir - that's a fairly pointless thing for you to say, as my fairly obvious retort is that I think you need to revisit your value sets.

Capitalism is perhaps amoral in your personal value set, rabbitstew, but not in other people's more rounded value set. I think you need to revisit the value set you were given in childhood and plug a few gaps.

I'm quite sure that every day, companies get customers trying to rip them off and get something for nothing. I'm also equally certain that every day companies are fobbing people off when they've provided nothing for something.

Bonsoir - which bit of my saying that capitalism is amoral are you not getting? Why do you think I'm picking only on big business? It is frequently not in business interests, or personal economic interests to do the moral thing. This whole thread was started on the basis of whether state schools are making children amoral. I have merely pointed out it isn't state schools that are doing that, it's the society we live in.

No it's not self-justification. Every day companies get customers trying to rip them off and get something for nothing. Stop assuming that all customers are good obedient innocents and all companies are big evil exploiters.

Bonsoir - believe me, I know how to defend myself. I don't believe it would be moral for me to pretend I haven't done wrong when I have, though.

Bonsoir - it's not self-defence, it's self-justification.

happygardening - I don't believe I've said at any point that amorality or immorality is limited to one section of the population. Surely you noticed I attributed it to the whole of society?

Actually I had a big run in with JL a few weeks back I didn't initally find their complaint dept very helpful, lots of being kept hanging on etc, on a 0845 number but eventually a very helpful man saw it from my point of view but only after I'd spent time talking to a few very unhelpful types and had been on the phone for over 25 mins.

It's not bad behaviour, it's self-defence. I bet self-defence wasn't a value in your upbringing.

I'm saying rabbit that breaking rules and laws is not solely the preserve of oligarchs.
Most criminals must believe rules don't apply to them and they are from poor working class uneducated backgrounds.
What I'm trying to say is that amorality or even immorality cannot be associated with only one section of the population.

And let's face it, it's normally the companies with the worst service that have the hardest to reach customer complaints lines.

I don't see only one, Bonsoir, I just think it's a bit pathetic to behave badly with the excuse that others do it to you, so why not?

Do you think that the barrage of unjustified complaints that customers make every day are moral, rabbitstew? There are two sides to every story. You seem to only see one.

I'm not naïve, Bonsoir, I just don't think profiting from naivety is moral.

Nobody has to use the premium rate customer complaints line. Let's face it: it's not in a company's interest to make customer complaints too easy. You are perhaps a little naive, rabbitstew*.

Or that they are no more dangerous as criminals than the unsuccessful criminals?

Are you implying that oligarchs are criminals, happy? Or that they can believe the same rules don't apply to them but somehow not be criminal?

But rabbit oligarchs might believe the same rules don't apply to them as other people but so do criminals and we know that the vast majority of those aren't oligarchs.

Which means that state schools can't be doing THAT bad a job, since that is where the big majority of people are educated.

Although I will agree that a big majority of people wish to behave well towards each other.

(I guess, I've been left a LOT cynical! ).