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How do we choose between poor local secondaries and superb ones an hour away for DS (currently year 5)?

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AThousandApples · 16/04/2014 00:31

We have a DS (year 5) with whom we're looking at secondary schools ready for applying for a place in the autumn. We're starting looking now because we don't have terribly good options, so we have quite a bit of weighing up to do.

All the secondary schools within a few miles of us are below average (in terms of GCSE performance). The best (and nearest) one is considered in need of improvement by Ofsted. The up-shot of this school is that it's nearby, and DS could get there easily and increasingly independently, as well as back home while I'm at work. If he stayed to do an after-school club, it would be relatively straightforward for him to get home while I'm at work (a grandparent could pick him up for example), or for me to fetch him afterwards. And with the short journey time, he'd have a life! Enough time to sleep, wind down, etc.

The problem is, Ofsted considers that this school is letting down brighter pupils; it isn't teaching to their needs, and they risk not fulfilling their potential. DS is fairly switched-on. He's already working at Level 6 in a couple of core subjects, and will be sitting Level 6 SATs papers in 2015. I've never been pushy with him - just taught him to do his best and give everything 100%, and that's good enough for me. But I do want him to achieve what he's capable of in his schooling, and my concern is that at one of our local secondaries, he won't be stretched and will lose interest and motivation, and possibly lower his ideas of what 'doing well' looks like.

There are some massively-better-performing secondaries in a city about an hour away, and increasingly, kids from our community seem to be applying for places in these schools - and more often than not, getting them (most of DS's closest friends are likely to go to these). The schools are more academic and achieve much better GCSE results, and also seem to be strong with pastoral care too. Academically, they seem a better fit for DS. But he'd need to spend a few hours a day on a bus (unsupervised). He'd need to be catching said bus earlier than we currently get out of bed!

And logistically with work, it would be a nightmare if he did an after-school club and therefore missed the bus home; he'd have to hang around for over an hour before I could fetch him. He'd make friends further afield, so there'd be a lot of us driving him to see mates. And I just worry that he'd be knackered from the travel and early starts, and mightily grumpy from the lack of time for himself (he's very autonomous and absolutely thrives on having plenty of time to do his own thing).

Obviously we'll be visiting these schools throughout the year to weigh up our options, and of course we may not get our preferred choice anyway; but since at this stage we do have a choice, I'd be interested to hear what others might decide (or even have decided) in the same situation. What other things should we be considering? How have things worked out for your DC in a similar scenario?

Grades really aren't the be all and end all, I realise that. Most of all, I want DS to be content and to feel like he actually has a life still beyond the increasing busyness and demands of the school day. But I do want him to fulfill his personal academic potential, for his own self-confidence and his future.

WWYD?

Many thanks for any advice.

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meditrina · 16/04/2014 07:57

What are the entrance criteria for the city schools? Are the local children you know winning selective places or is it jut that they had in recent years enough places (and few enough applicant) to have massive admissions footprints?

If the latter, has the local Council made any predictions about size of cohort for next year? (Trend is for increase, though some areas say they have enough places).

Is the bus service direct? If so, then even a long journey should be ok. But how would he get there if there were strikes or if the bus just idn't show up one day?

FiscalCliffRocksThisTown · 16/04/2014 07:47

Could you move?

We moved to be in catchment of good secondaries, when kids were 6! It was a big factor, but meant DH had to commute an hour.

Marmitelover55 · 16/04/2014 07:44

I did a 60 mile round trip to secondary school for 3 years and wouldn't recommend it. I never went to any after school activities and also missed things like the annual Carol Service. If you can move closer that would seem the best option and is what my parents did eventually.

clary · 16/04/2014 01:17

Could you move nearer the school you favour?

I don't have experience of your situation as a parent but (sort of) as a child. My commute to secondary was about 40 mins, and what's more, the catchment for the school (rural area, grammar school) meant that friends often lived as far in the other direction. It wasn't a good thing - the vast majority of my school friends were people I never saw out of school, never went to their homes etc.

IMO a commute such as you describe would be unworkable. Also would you have any chance of getting a place at a school 30+ miles away? Do you live in an especially rural area?

FWIW the fantastic (in many many ways) school where I work is RI; I really o think we enable students to achieve their potential. What are the reasons your local schools are RI? If it's about teaching and pastoral care then I would be concerned; if it's about the results of a specific year group (for example) then I might not think it mattered so much.

EarlGreyCuppa · 16/04/2014 00:49

I sympathise as we're in yr 6 and have just finalised our "choices" for September.

You've not mentioned your housing arrangements at all - do you rent or own? Would you consider moving to the nearby city? I appreciate a move would be difficult regardless of whether you rent or own, but you have time before the end of this coming Oct and the deadline for secondary school applications. Also, just because currently kids from your area get into those city-schools, depending on catchments and numbers applying etc. it may not be the case for your DS.

Imho long commutes are tricky for some whilst others enjoy the time to (possibly) wind down. It depends on whether your DS would face many transport changes along the way etc. And whilst he will be young when he starts in yr7, he'll be older and stronger as he goes through the years. We know kids who need to be out of the house by 7 to get to school, it's not easy but many do such journeys.

Good luck with it all.

FrancesHB · 16/04/2014 00:38

We're a year behind you but in just the same position. At the moment we're leaning towards local school with a move at 6th form, for all your reasons. But I'm v worried naturally.