Please or to access all these features

Secondary education

Connect with other parents whose children are starting secondary school on this forum.

Secondary school hierarchy; how widespread?

29 replies

ThreeBeeOneGee · 12/02/2014 20:09

DS2 has now been at his (state, partially selective, single sex) secondary school for a term and a half and very happy; has settled well and not experienced any bullying or ostracism, despite being tiny, having Aspergers and being more than a bit quirky.

However, he is puzzled by the hierarchy behaviour shown by the students. Y12 & Y13 consider themselves too mature to take part, but from Y11 down to Y7, there seems to be a strict hierarchy according to year group, with older students expecting to go through doors first, be served first in the canteen despite the queue, and even shoving younger students aside in the corridors.

DS1 has also observed this phenomenon, but seems to accept it as part of the culture of the school.

When I was at school, the Y11s tended to dominate the back seat of the coach, but I don't remember any other hierarchy behaviour.

Is this something that happens in many secondary schools?
Is it a feature of boys' schools (I attended a girls' school and DH went to a mixed school so we wouldn't know).
Or is it specific to this school?

OP posts:
MillyMollyMama · 12/02/2014 20:33

Respect of older students is something that is fairly normal in independent/grammar schools. Not necessarily shoving but being able to queue jump at lunch and going through doors first. Tell him that when he is in year 11, it will be his turn and when he is really busy at lunchtime, he might be glad to get into lunch without queueing. Unless, of course the culture has changed by then.

He might like to know that in schools in South Africa the youngest pupils make tea for the older ones, serve them cakes, run errands for them and generally act as their "fags". Apparently the younger children like it!

lljkk · 12/02/2014 20:21

DC schools are not like that.
In fact Some Yr11s dote on Yr7s (like Yr6s tend to dote on Yr1s).
But I guess each school develops own culture.
On the bus the Y10s-11s can be a bit bolshy about seats, but will defer to adult requests.

scarlettsmummy2 · 12/02/2014 20:20

I think it is quite common in all boys grammar/ private schools.

ThreeBeeOneGee · 12/02/2014 20:16

Just to add that DS2 compared the Y11s' dominance behaviour to that of male baboons. Fortunately he said this to me, not to them! Grin

OP posts: