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Fed up with the education divide ?

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johnbunyan · 12/02/2014 16:13

As a former Head of an independent school, I am fed up with the ideological divide in education, and want to start a national discussion on constructive ways to help the state and independent systems grow naturally together. I am secretary of a national group of independent day schools ( mostly the old direct grant schools ) and we look back to a time when there was much greater co-operation and a real sense of social mobility. Can we return to such a consensus ? I would love to hear ideas and start building towards such a consensus, since, as we approach the 2015 General Election, it will seem a long way away! I sense that many parents would like government and schools to work something out -and quickly -since the educational divide is simply not helpful to anybody - least of all the present generation. How many out there agree?

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Honeysweet · 12/02/2014 18:30

Where do academies fit into the current education system?

Gunznroses · 12/02/2014 18:23

Yes, abolishing private schools is the answer to raising the quality of education absolutely Hmm

MerlinFromCamelot · 12/02/2014 17:56

I would suggest to abolish private schools all together. I have no problem with selection based on ability etc but I think selection on ability to pay is not right. Having said that I do not believe that private schools are always better.

Martorana · 12/02/2014 17:55

Oops, sorry, creamteas- I didn't notice your post.

Martorana · 12/02/2014 17:53

Tell me more about this social mobility......

creamteas · 12/02/2014 17:45

a real sense of social mobility

Except a sense of social mobility is not the same as actual social mobility. Once you take away the impact of broader social changes (trends in standards of living, changes in occupation etc) there is little evidence that the 1950s and 1960s were any better than now.

If you really want to end the educational divide, then clearly you need to abolish the ability of some people to buy a better education than others both in terms of private places and preferential access to state schools.

johnbunyan · 12/02/2014 16:52

1950s and 1960s

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Martorana · 12/02/2014 16:15

"and we look back to a time when there was much greater co-operation and a real sense of social mobility."

When was that?

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