Is HUMILATINGchildren still a prt of teaching ?

Interestingly the vast majority of teachers' children I have taught have been delightful and the ones who haven't have had parents who work with the school to sort situations out.

Maybe ritual humiliation works?

The reality is that children are children not angels! Schools and parents need to work as a partnership!

Sensible answer to the OP...
No, of course not and no.

When the fuck do we ever get the chance these days to hone and sharpen our biting sarcasm and ritual humiliation in the classroom?!

Ahh, gone are the 1970s days when you dreaded the gimlet stare of your Chemistry teacher who could reduce you to a jelly with one look, so you just got on with your work. Nowadays it's all inspections and acronyms, parental pressure and target grades.

I must admit, I do get wazzed off when we are given yet more life skills stuff to teach ('kids need to be taught to...!!!' screams the headlines), we are considered to be 'in loco parentis' yet I can't deal with THEIR kids like I deal with MINE. Safe to say, mine has never been a problem for anyone. I hone my sarcasm and ritual humiliation on him...got to scratch that itch yanno. Comes preloaded with the 'teacher' chip.

I am not joking...

A teacher a ds' school recently left. Ahem. He got great results but clearly was not suited to teaching. I think its heartening that those unsuited to the profession are picked up on a lot more now. And that the majority of teachers who are great and committed will no longer be tarred with the same brush.

Ah, 'foul'! I always wait for that!

Children are now "pwecious babies" , why are people so sneery and condescending. Can't you just say some parents can get it wrong and can't see beyond their own view of their children.

I could say the same for the way some people talk about teachers in general on here; sneery and condescending. Can't you just say some teachers get it wrong? Incidentally, most teachers on Mumsnet are parents as well. Hence the forum is largely catered to mums.

You're criticising others for a bit of sarcasm when you went so far as to suggest that somebody you don't know was unsuited to do their job based on a misrepresentation of what they said? Are you always such an arse?

Children are now "pwecious babies" , why are people so sneery and condescending. Can't you just say some parents can get it wrong and can't see beyond their own view of their children.

Or is it necessary to lace an opinion with sarcasm.

And the "little darling" comment was not, IMO, denigrating children, but rather quite accurately highlighting a depressingly common attitude amongst parents that their pwecious babies can absolutely never be guilty of behaving badly. Witness the number of comments on here like "I know 100% my child is telling the truth. They never ever lie". Yeah, riiight...

Tasteslikechicken, how absolutely absurd to suggest that somebody shouldn't be a TA because they stated that children sometimes BEHAVE LIKE brats. Are you seriously suggesting that some children, at times, don't behave atrociously?

What TheGreatWizard said.

Well, I have no idea what that Derbyshire thing is about, but I'm assuming it wasn't meant to compliment me, right?

Corlan labelled the behaviour not the child. Humiliating a child is not part of teaching, although I've seen situations which could be described as banter and if a child was to go home to their parents and relay the conversation it could have been seen as humiliation.

Not a teacher but did train to be one.

DD has only encountered one 'mean' teacher at secondary school. The others are all lovely and the nasty one mysteriously disappeared.

I didn't describe them as 'brats' , I said some children sometimes behave like 'brats' - big difference.

corlan, I'm not sore the role of a teaching asst. is best suited to someone who describes children as "brats". You sound like a condescending joy, what with your jaunty "funnily enough" when thinking about your colleagues over the last ten years, and describing the children of parents as " little darlings".

Horrible and foul.

There are some arseholes who are teachers same as there are some arseholes in every other profession and there are some unemployed aresholes.

I think it's daft to imply (by asking if it is still a part of teaching) that seeking to or desiring to humiliate children is somehow almost a requirement of being a teacher.

If there is an individual who is an arse, deal with that individual.

(No. I am not a teacher. Nor have I ever been)

I've been a TA 10 years and, funnily enough, I can't think of an occasion where a teacher has deliberately humiliated a child.

I can, however, think of loads of occasions where parents have refused to back up the school when their little darling has behaved like a brat.(Usually because the parent holds all sort of ignorant prejudices against teachers.)

This is a thread about a thread - this one.

Well that's shocking-but fairly clearly not representative of the vast majority of the profession!

I have no idea what you're talking about,OP.