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First private school in Islington

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MuswellHillDad · 18/11/2013 23:54

What do we think of this North Bridge House outpost in Canonbury, 13+ and only 300 students with no space for any serious facilities?

Isn't it just like having a dozen classrooms 2 miles away from the actual school?

www.northbridgehouse.com/articles/nbh-canonbury-is-go.html

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MuswellHillDad · 21/11/2013 08:19

HorseandMum

You have given NBH a good reference which, I for one, consider to be an important plus for the school. Too often people judge school based on rumours rather than real experiences.

I agree that parents who pay might be overall more motivated, but that also applies to church schools which are selective and also require motivated parents.

I was more thinking why one would pay for a school with such limited facilities compared to almost any other school. A site with 300 on it can only have a fraction of the facilities of one with 1000-1200.

I suppose people really pay for the teaching and the feel of the place rather than the bricks and mortar, but NBHC seemed to stretch the point.

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horsemadmom · 21/11/2013 08:09

I actually think NBH is on to something here. As a former NBH prep parent, I have to say that they are very focused at exit (post 11+ and 13+) on the kids who aren't cut out for selective indies. That isn't to say that NBH senior is made up of only non-academic kids- it isn't. Many people move into London with secondary aged DCs and find that they don't have many school choices. Some parents also find that their state secondary isn't satisfactory and decide to move. NBH is filling a real gap. For a mixed ability co-hort, their GCSE results are very impressive and it's a bit sad that they haven't had the facilities to allow DCs to carry on. Also, many parents are flogging across from Islington (or using the school's bus). It is just entering the Woodhouse/Brampton market but with a bit of built-in continuity for DCs who, in the past, had to leave at 16. As to 'why pay if the peer group will be mixed?', they will be mixed academically but they will all have parents behind them who are motivated enough to pay ( many at great sacrifice) and some DCs need a small school where they are well known and cared for and private schools live and die by results so they have every motivation to ensure each child achieves the best results they can. Many of the schools that used to do this have upped the ante academically and no longer risk offering places to DCs with SpLDs or or the not-as-bright- there needs to be a place for them in every sector.

MuswellHillDad · 21/11/2013 08:01

Too much time and Google as a friend

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Tuhlulah · 20/11/2013 22:08

For someone who's not interested in using it, you do seem very involved.

MuswellHillDad · 20/11/2013 14:27

planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/00296931.pdf

They will have a science lab, but otherwise my points stand.

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MuswellHillDad · 20/11/2013 13:32

Lovely tweet from, I presume, an NBH student.

twitter.com/LucyDiLandro/status/402711504690348032/photo/1

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MuswellHillDad · 20/11/2013 13:22

It really does raise the question almost 'reductio ad absurdum' as to why pay for secondary education.

The site is tiny and the facilities can't stretch much beyond classrooms and dining for 300.

The socialisation is going to be weird, rather like a village school with only 1 class per year.

Whilst you might save on morning commuting, you'll pay it back in spades to do science, drama, music, sport etc.

There will be the big school a few miles away where all the good stuff happens and you won't be there.

Without entrance exams the peer group will be mixed, just like any other school. If that's what you want, why pay?

Having said all this, I have no doubt it will be rammed from day 1.

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catastrophewaitress · 20/11/2013 12:40

I may be wrong but I believe the lack of Sixth Form provision so far has been one of the main drawbacks of NBH Senior which otherwise seems to be addressing a gap in the market, in that there are not many other non-academically selective private senior schools in North London. Adding Sixth Form provision would presumably make it a more attractive proposition all round as it removes the need to look around for another school at 16. I suspect the first takers for the Sixth Form would come from their existing Senior School and they'd be hoping to build a reputation from there. Otherwise there's a fair bit of competition in the area with St Mary Magdalene offering IB and Islington Sixth Form Consortium doing well by all accounts. Not sure how much demand there will be for the younger years especially with many of Islington's state senior schools fast improving. But people may travel from other areas that are not as well served, or may see it as a fall back option vs more established/competitive private provision. Presumably they can use the sports grounds at top of Highbury Fields? Who knows, maybe Islington council can charge them good money for the use of facilities in the area which they can then plough back into improved facilities for everyone feeling optimistic today despite the crummy weather

Tuhlulah · 20/11/2013 10:20

They start with Year 9 in school's first year, add Year 8 in second year and Year 7 in third year.

MuswellHillDad · 19/11/2013 16:14

You're right, but I was thinking that all those parents that live locally and are driving miles to a private school would stop, pay fees and that could help to cross-subsidise stuff at Highbury Grove. Those kids would never go to HG anyway.

Crazyland slightly less crazy but still irrelevant and it isn't going to happen my way.

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Farewelltoarms · 19/11/2013 14:43

MuswellHillDad, by all accounts Highbury Grove has pretty firm setting to the extent that it almost has a discrete grammar school within it at the top sets (i.e. the kids don't mix much).

I'm not sure what advantage actually moving them out of the building would make…

Interestingly enough, I think what Northbridge House Canonbury might be is exactly the opposite - a fee-paying secondary modern...

MuswellHillDad · 19/11/2013 14:25

It would work better if they shared facilities with Highbury Grove (excellent science, music, drama, art, D&T, indoor sports, pool).

In fact, why isn't the council doing it and making it a means tested fee paying grammar school? Highbury Grove Canonbury Grammar.

Sorry, I drifted off into crazyland there ....

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Farewelltoarms · 19/11/2013 13:23

I think you can never underestimate the desire of some Islington parents to go private. There's almost an ethical objection to state schools in some quarters. There is one private primary near us that by most accounts is just pants and gets away with things that would never be allowed at state primaries, but the parents are desperate to go private but at the same time (understandably) don't want to trek to Hampstead.

I'm a bit sceptical about groups like Cognita so I don't think it would be my cup of tea. If I were to opt for private (which we might at secondary), I want to be assured that I was getting something really amazing for my money - facilities, track record etc.

What it might be useful for, in our case, is if we go to one of our local state secondaries and it doesn't work out then there's an option a bit like a crammer. I guess.

MuswellHillDad · 19/11/2013 13:06

Nope.

We are pleased to announce that North Bridge House Senior School will be offering 6th Form provision from September 2014, as we open a new school for Year 9 to Year 13 pupils in Canonbury, Islington. The school, to be called North Bridge House Canonbury, will be the first independent senior school in Islington.

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Tuhlulah · 19/11/2013 11:43

Is it not a whole new school from year 7 going through to GCSE?

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