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PE just as I remember it. What a shame.

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EverythingUnderControl · 18/10/2013 20:54

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

Apparently those shining stars of the class still get to choose the teams. Every time. Lesson after lesson after lesson ad infinitum. This actually translates into 'choose all your best mates whilst seizing that irresistible and golden opportunity to publicly exclude anyone not considered A list du jour' in the ever changing and cruel popularity contest that is year 10.

Abusive and insulting comments still bellowed extensively and full blast at anyone perceived not to be performing as required? Of course.

PE teachers tolerating, encouraging and overlooking the above? You bet.

Being given 30 seconds to get changed in a smelly changing room before the wrath of said PE teacher is unleashed? Well it wouldn't be PE without it, would it?

Ah yes, thankfully the awful enforced showers of yore are no more. Well that's something at least, I suppose. I used to have the added humiliation of a communal shower to endure. But many aspects are alive and well 35 years down the line.

Dd (15) told me forlornly that today's PE 'lesson' was all of the above and often is for herSad. The thing is dd isn't exactly hopeless when it comes to sport but hey, why let a small detail like that get in the way now that she's sunk forever under the PE teacher's benevolent gaze? Her problem here is that she's quiet. Un-pushy. Doesn't stand out where a loud gob is a useful accessory. We don't seem to be able to relate too well to quieter people in PE at our school.

The added irony is that as a family we've always encouraged our dc to be very active by involving them in all kinds of sports. Although unsurprisingly dd is much less keen nowadays. I wondered why, now I guess I know.

Why is PE core subject? Why not let those that so wish just to drop it? They can then avoid the ritual humiliation and leave those that think are god's gift to the world of sport bask in uninterrupted glory without ever having to utter the sneering words 'Oh miss, do I have to be with her..?'

Dd would welcome the chance to go and partake further in any one of the many other lessons she's good at. Lessons that strangely don't involve a teacher who conveniently turns a blind eye to what is little more than a nasty popularity contest with a large dose of humiliation to bootHmm

Ah yes, but the constant message we hear is that sport is good. Desirable for all. So it astounds me that post Olympics when there was so much enthusiasm and bon homie sloshing about, plans for more funding to encourage everyone, (especially for this age group) to get active, join in, be sporty blah blah blah, that this negative aspect persists.

Is this the default for PE at school? Sad if school PE is your main (for some their only) experience of it. If your face doesn't fit you're stuffed.

Hardly an endorsement for an activity that says it wants to be inclusive. The only message dd gets repeatedly is that she must be crap at sport, which clicks the switch firmly off in the 'things I might enjoy' category; probably for years to come.

As a parent I'm often pointing out to dc that school isn't ever going to be a bowl of cherries and that much of what they may dislike about it is frankly tough. Dc know that life isn't always going to be fair, but this disappoints me hugely. Not because it's not fair, but because it's plain mean and because that's exactly how I remember PE at school and I thought - assumed - things surely must have changed and they haven't. Not one iota. Despite all the fanfare and bigging it up in the media and all the famous sports people saying give it a go. It falls at the first hurdle for some kids in the dubious environment of the PE lesson.

I hope there are inspirational, innovative and inclusive teachers of this subject in some quarters. Sadly not for us. Such a shame that sport, at our school anyway, so often struggles to be the most important thing of all: sporting.

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Thants · 19/10/2013 10:33

I think you should be able to drop PE if your not doing a PE GCSE it's just a waste of time.

NoComet · 19/10/2013 10:30

Set here too, which seems to work really well.
DD1 gets relaxed fun PE
DD2 gets the cooperative stuff and invites to do loads more at lunch and after school

Suits them both perfectly

BrokenSunglasses · 19/10/2013 10:20

I'm quite surprised to hear this, it's really sad!

I have two at two different secondary schools, and their experiences are both very different. Neither of them are sporty at all, but I've been really impressed with the way their schools do things in PE. There is a lot more focus on tactics of games, learning the physical benefits of each exercise and sport, coaching methods, and it just seems so much more rounded and inclusive. There are teams and matches arranged against other schools for children of all abilities, so the C set children just play against C set children from other schools and that way they all get the experience of visiting other schools and being part of a team.

They don't pick teams and their changing rooms are nice, with shower cubicles (although they never get used).

Such a shame it can't be like this in all schools, I had assumed that it would be.

EverythingUnderControl · 19/10/2013 08:01

Thanks for your nice replies and so sorry for the long moanBlush but I was just so annoyed.

As I said dd is actually not bad at many sports given the chance, it's just that the lesson is so intrinsically linked to who's cool and who shouts the loudest (talk about handing a loaded gun over to the meanies) that she feels wrong footed before she even starts.

I know that girls can be like that at this age. Heaven knows we ALL know this, so why oh why does the teaching of this subject alone seem to not only ignore this fact but to actually build the lesson around it??Confused

Not much point in taking this to the school. She's in yr10, things aren't going to change now. What's worse is that she's not upset as such, but just accepts that how it is. As did I at the same age. I guess there are loads of kids who steel themselves for their PE lessons in a similar way. And I can only think that identifying dd as a having a mother who moans about PE teachers will only make things worse.

Funny though, we are not unsporting as a family away from school. My ds (also at the school) is a National Champion in his chosen sport, so I silently stick two fingers up to the lot of them. They know nothing really.

So sorry to hear similar tales about your own dc tooSad. The true measure of sport done well is being a good sport and denigrating others for what they may or may not be is unsporting and unattractive. Dd doesn't publicly mock people in her class who struggle with maths. Nor does the failure or success of anyone in the maths class hinge on how popular you are.

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CurseOfCurves89 · 19/10/2013 07:57

I feel really sorry for your dd Sad I was the same in school and eventually I just stopped going to pe and my physics teacher let me hide it out in his classroom.
Any pe teachers I've ever met have been total prats. From the one who told me I'd never amount to anything because I couldn't do high jump (fully grown now I'm only 5ft, how that surprised him I'll never know) to the one who made you 'drop and give her twenty' if you called her miss instead of coach.
Not to mention there's always that one person who things pe is the fucking Olympics Hmm
Tell your dd that pe counts for nothing. Unless she wants to be a teacher if it when she grows up ofcourse. It's important to stay fit, yes but getting all upset over it is a waste of her time. Hope she doesn't have to endure it for too much longer.

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HaPPy8 · 19/10/2013 07:35

You need to speak to the teacher. PE isn't like that in all schools at all. I think they should do some form of PE every day though. But in a supportive and not always competitive environment. Our local comp actually has a gym where students can exercise individually which is good.

ILoveAFullFridge · 19/10/2013 07:28

I feel really Sad and also Angry for your dd, OP. It should not be this way. This is a shocking reflection on her school's policies, and goes much higher than a PE teacher's attitude. The other children should not be allowed to make such comments and to always choose that way.

I think you should take this to the Head.

This is what it can and should be like:
(For background, PE for me was exactly as you describe, and I feared for my unsporty, unco-ordinated, stickler-for-rules, pedantic ds when he started 2ry)
PE lessons are not set, but the pupils levels are constantly assessed and they are assigned to teams in such a way that mostly they play with others of the same level, but sometimes with others of different levels. They are all taught each game and each skill from scratch. When they started rugby they were given free choice of 'full' rugby from day one, or non-contact tag-rugby, with no comment or judgement over their choice. Divvying-up for teams is a rare occurrence, and only ever when playing in same-ability teams.

Ds, for the first time, enjoyed team sports. He was assessed at a 3c in Y7 (ie well below the level expected at the end of KS2) and to my utter astonishment his PE teacher's attitude at Parents' Evening was not "X must pull his socks up and work harder" but "X tries his best and makes a good effort during PE classes. He's a strategist, and is very good at planning tactics." He then went on to discuss what physical activities ds particularly enjoyed and to encourage him to continue with them.

This year ds started full-contact rugby(which I had been dreading) and he has been enjoying it and is feeling confident about it.

That is what school sports should be like. It is about the school's attitude to nurturing each pupil according to their needs and abilities, which is why I think you should speak to the Head about the vile attitudes that your dd is wilting under.

MaureensWhites · 19/10/2013 07:19

Teen and tween - your dd's school sounds fab.

I was crap at PE, always picked last, hate sport to this day.
Don't even start me on the ritual humiliation that is sports day. My children are both academic. Shall we have a day where the children sit and do an academic competition in front of ALL the parents so my dc can shine and the less able children can feel like crap? As if.

Don't get me wrong, it's great for the children who are good at sport to be given an opportunity to achieve and be proud but not at the cost of others.
Last year dd came home after sports day. 'How was it?' I asked (dh went, I was working) . 'I came last in every race' she said. Brilliant Hmm

Dc are both rubbish. DS plays football but mainly for the social side of it. Dd does dance. We take them swimming and walking and dh plays football and cricket with them in the garden. I want them to be active adults but that will NEVER happen if they are subjected to the sort of lessons that the OP describes Sad

BadgerB · 19/10/2013 07:01

OP. I agree with every work you write! Not only did the humiliation make me hate sport - I still do, won't even watch it - but I meanly rejoiced years later when I learned that my chief tormentor had failed her nursing finals. My children find things much the same

TeenAndTween · 18/10/2013 21:19

At DD1's school they set early for PE.

Top half for the good, competitive ones.
Lower half for the less good, or less competitive.
Worked really well.

Then in y10&y11 they have a range of sports to choose from to help them find something they might want to do to be 'active for life'. eg table tennis, zumba, trampoline as well as football, netball etc.

Works really well for uncoordinated DD1.