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Tearing my hair out over State boarding

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Teddingtonmum1 · 03/10/2013 23:30

As I'm a single mum with a demanding job , I have decided to look into state boarding preferably weekly if I can get my ds a place . Christs hospital is my number 1 choice due to the bursary and it's a great school ( my brother is an old blue so slightly biased ) am also looking at RAAs in Reigate and Gordon's in Woking got open days at both saturday and next thursday out of the 2 would prefer Gordon's as a fall back if we cant get into CH , but have been advised that I can claim tax credits towards the 'childcare ' bill .

Have quizzed Gordon's as to chances of getting in I live in teddington so the right side of London but they said it obviously depends on siblings etc .( no really fair if you only have one can see why there's sibling priority in primary but not at secondary as kids get themselves to school but those are the rules ) am a little hopeful to read someone got in last year from east London ? any thoughts about gordons ??? im just about tearing my hair out as need a boarding place otherwise my sond going to be forced to become a latch key kid which I don't want HELP !!!!

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Teddingtonmum1 · 29/11/2013 19:09

Hi
No I didn't put down teddington . BUT I did put down Turing house for what its worth even though they still are not saying where the site is !!!
I was also wondering because of the catholic school opening in sept maybe there's a shout of Orleans park :( we are 1.4 miles away.
think I'm going on holiday for 1st march to get away from the drama !!!

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mary21 · 29/11/2013 14:50

TA just got requires improvement from ofsted.

Shootingatpigeons · 29/11/2013 13:30

Please please don't tell me you didn't put down Teddington Sad You do realise that if you didn't and everything else falls through all they will offer you is TA (if there are spaces) or RPA, the only one where there will almost certainly be spaces. It is rapidly improving, and I think it does have a Homework Club etc. but it's a shit journey, your DS won't need an after school club because he will be on the 33 and all his friends will live 5 miles away.

Turing is a separate application this year but it is popular, a fantastic leadership team, very well respected locally, all that is lacking is an announced site, but that is in the interests of commercial sensitivity on the negotiations. You might miss out on distance though, it is measured from a point just west of Twickenham Green. Although all the open meetings have finished for now, and they were well advertised, even on the back of buses and across the main street in Twickenham, hardly a low profile, they are very responsive to people's communications and questions. www.turinghouseschool.org.uk/index.php

Teddingtonmum1 · 28/11/2013 22:58

Hi
Yes I did fill out the caf but I only put down 3 schools

Flip chart you are too funny but I need a bit of light relief round here lol ...

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flipchart · 28/11/2013 15:25

I need to go to Specsavers! I thought you were tearing your hair out over skateboarding!
Thought you were having problems with a kickflip or something!

LIZS · 28/11/2013 15:21

but you must have filled in a CAF to apply for Gordon's , did you not list any others ?

Teddingtonmum1 · 28/11/2013 10:21

I didn't apply as the applications have closed plus we wouldn't have had a figs chance !!.

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LIZS · 28/11/2013 07:18

I hope you've got a local day school as a back up plan, those odds sounds very tight.

Teddingtonmum1 · 27/11/2013 23:53

Just read the holyport admissions info they are only taking 40 kids in sept ? Including only 18 boarders plus they are only giving 4 bursaries !!! that that's shared with y9 entry but the fees are pretty affordable £3800 per term so there's going to be a scramble no doubt ....

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Teddingtonmum1 · 27/11/2013 23:41

Thanks Lizs for the info was interesting have only applied for gordons SB and they only have 32 places !!! was watching the video clip below about holyport ? Just sound like the poor relation to Eton ....

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LIZS · 24/11/2013 08:11

op , you may want to read this before you commit yourselves and raise questions about on-going funding at your meeting. wwyd if that aspect closed down in a couple of years or the school went independent for example?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/11/2013 07:40

OP if you are pursuing the Boarding route you might want to look at Holyport College the new boarding and day free school sponsored by Eton. It's not open yet so is a bit of an unknown quantity. It's in Berkshire so not too far from you.

Teddingtonmum1 · 19/11/2013 00:10

Yes , they only have 16 boys boarding places which is nothing but they are happy to 'indicate ' if you are likely to get an offer as if you need to apply for a bursary you need an interview / home visit and lots of yet more forms to fill in which I'm presuming takes time.
its the day places which are over subscribed apprently they have had 300 odd day app for 68 places am waiting for them to confirm the situation with boarding This week now applications are now closed.
Am in the middle of just reading up on Turing house may start a new thread but haven't seen much about it especially as its supposed to be opening in less than 12 months.

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Labro · 18/11/2013 21:40

Gordons wouldn't be able to confirm a place until March 2014 as they are bound by the admission rules of the LEA. Have you been able to read the admission criteria as it does state they only take 32 weekly/full boarders out of an average of 400 applicants.

Teddingtonmum1 · 18/11/2013 20:32

am guessing the bursary is means tested every year but what I do know are tax credits are here to stay for at least the next 3/4 years as I work in welfare reform and If I have to go to one more meeting about the doomed universal credit I'll scream !!' But yes goalposts can move so will keep that in mind .

if daddy contributed his half I wouldn't need to apply as I could manage half the fees £2250 per term but heaven forbid he pull his belt in and pay his part he seems to think everything is covered by his miserly £50 pw child support.

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LIZS · 18/11/2013 19:43

but you can't rely on tc - rules change every year and it won't be the £13k or so (which will increase year on year) you are then committed to for 5/7 years. Did you apply for any other state schools , perhaps one you are more likely to get a place at ?

Teddingtonmum1 · 18/11/2013 19:18

yes I would apply for a bursary but I am working so would still have to find something BUT I think I said in my earlier post I found out that if you have a child in state boarding ie not charging for education you can claim some of it as ''childcare' under tax credits and before I get shot down in flames I don't make the rules a parent mentioned it who was claiming and at the time I didn't believe it but rang tax credits 'just in case ' and it is actually true you can claim tax credits towards the cost of state boarding fees, again just to clarify I didn't say it was right but apparently it is ok .

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LIZS · 18/11/2013 18:26

Did you name any local state schools as a back up ? Fees at Gordon's are still significant so you'd need some bursary to fund that, assuming ds got a place.

happygardening · 18/11/2013 18:17

Good luck OP I hope you get a place at one of the schools your trying for.

Teddingtonmum1 · 18/11/2013 13:51

Hi ,

Had a chance to calm down over the weekend , am not going to pursue CH appeal , but would like some feedback ie did he flunk it or was it just there were people better on the day then we know where we are going forward.

I have been contacted by the bursar of Gordon's so maybe there's a small flicker of hope there as presuming if he was miles down the list they wouldn't bother to even start the process am waiting for the admissions to call me back to give me an indication ( seriously I don't know how I'm holding my job down at the moment all I'm thinking about is blinking schools !! Am so glad I only have the one !!)

I did fill out the caf ? Form as Gordon's is state boarding so needed to put it in . But got that interview looming at reids in 2 weeks have no idea what format it will take might right and speak to the admissions to try and glean some more info so I can try and be a bit prepared don't want to let the side down. :(

On the up side court on Friday am hoping that Gordon's can indicate before then so at least I've got something to offer so to speak but we shall see.

phew ........ Roll on march

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Clavinova · 15/11/2013 21:15

I'm sorry to read that your son didn't make CH - but you still have Reed's and Gordon's and I think you said in a previous post that you would be applying for Richmond secondaries as a back-up? Perhaps you could ring around some boarding preps as suggested but maybe you don't need to do anything until Feb/March when the offers are out; there would still be time to find a day prep for years 7 & 8 especially if you're able to pay half fees.

RubyLennox · 15/11/2013 21:08

Sorry to hear that your DS didn't make it through the first stage of the CH selection procedure OP, but I do hope you're not transferring your anxiety and disappointment to him - without wanting to be harsh, it sounds as though he's under enough pressure already! I've known several children who have tried for CH - in every case they were flagged up as academic high achievers by their schools and the parents had high hopes, but some just didn't make the cut. I guess CH simply can't take "every" bright and/or needy child who applies, and from what I've gathered they're offering greatly reduced levels of bursary support in these recessionary times than they were able to a few years ago.

Good luck with Reeds - but I hope that both you and your DS are realistic about your chances, and that you have prepared him not to regard the local state option as a 'failure'. With your obvious love and support, I'm sure he'll do well wherever he goes!

mary21 · 15/11/2013 15:57

Did you fill an application for Richmond Secondaries. If not you have till 30/11/13 to apply to Turing House as back up

LIZS · 15/11/2013 15:27

Even a local day Prep school would have longer hours and activities such as sport, clubs or Prep which can extend the day until 5.30-6.00 or beyond. However, in terms of finances can you really afford this, since I assume your ex isn't being supportive of such action and won't contribute ? A 100% bursary is very rare in any school even for the most exceptional child although one with vacancies in Year 7 may negotiate.

And do you really need it ? dd 's peers at Prep school in Year 7 & 8 are still ferried to and fro everywhere and have parental input into their homework and projects whereas those who have moved at 11 are much more independent, get themselves to and from school and could easily cope with an hour or so after school alone, watching tv or doing homework. I think your are underestimating your ds and are perhaps a little over protective which may be where your ex is (in part at least) coming from. You have left this very late to investigate and your options are limited but you seem blind to alternative suggestions. Stand back and check you aren't just doing this to be at odds with him.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/11/2013 15:10

Does he actually want to board? There is a lot in your posts about what you want and your "interactions" with your ex but not a lot about what your son wants?

I agree with HG post above. Pause and take stock because you seem to be almost frantically pursuing one option only.

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