Would your year 7 dd wear these school shoes?

startrite do some that are a plain and a bit more grown up if you can get the shop to swap them www.startriteshoes.com/samba-atlantic-leather-22820

DD1 had brogues last year - she would not have worn shoes like the OP's DD even with the hearts. There were quite a few girls in Yr7 who did, though.

This year DD has these but she is an adult 6.5 (also very tall, nearly 5'6'' so a completely different situation). She would not be allowed ballet flats - the school would allow them, I would not.

at a school that will not allow girls to wear trousers, to be honest - would never, ever send my children to a place like that, so completely out of order in the modern world.

DD1 starts year 7 and we've already said that she is exempt from the annual startrite factory shop trip and can have a pair of kickers, she is very chuffed

No, my DD assures me that no one will have straps on their shoes in Y7. It's either slip-ons or lace ups.

Fran and dandy black leather were the popular ones at my DD school - I was surprised because even I found them ugly but they all wore them - to their credit!

Her feet are small for her age, so that is your problem along with the width issue. My DD has similar sized feet (1.5 G) but she is 8. I buy Startrite but the sizing is annoying. They are doing less and less width fittings, the quality has gone downhill too. How about Petasil? My dd has cream brogues that also come in black, they are soft, and wide fitting. I have a pair myself so they aren't too "young"! Have a look online. ( Mine came from a small independant shoe shop in Brecon, but lots online). Camper shoes often come up wide too, are not a lot more than Startrite and are stylish.

My DD(15yo) tried ballet style ones for a term a couple of years ago after I finally gave in. She soon realised what a mistake it was and now has these: www.clarks.co.uk/p/20341193 - which are ballet style but with straps. Most of her friends also gave up on the slip on styles.
Her bag a large black tote back with a long strap as well as handles from Next. It has 2 large zip compartments and another central one. Big enough to hold folders.

She might be able to get away with them if she wears trousers, but with a skirt I think she will get teased. When D was in year 7 all the girls wore ballet flats or brogues. DD can't wear ballet shoes as she wears supportive insoles so she has to wear brogues. I am so grateful that they are in vogue right now.

Dd wore a plain version of these in Y7 and 8. She wouldn't have liked the hearts, but is not fashion conscious at all. She loved these, because the leather is soft and they are super comfortable. Sadly her feet are now too big.

To be honest, I think you might be best off trying to change them for a plain version. DD is very 'uncool' & really not fussed about her shoes but I still don't think she'd be happy with the heart/button.

The whole of MN must be clicking on that link because it took ages to come up for me. DD wouldn't be caught dead in them, sorry.

I feel for you OP, DD's feet have finally crept up to 2.5-3G/H so we can get something like brogues, thank goodness. her insteps are very high, too, but not as bad as you describe. Never had trouble finding winter boots (as long as I was willing to pay £70 for them, eek). I think we'll find kickers to fit, too. Creepers would be a no at our school, too.

The style is absolutely fine - the heart and button less so.

I would ask the shop to order the plain ones in - they look really nice.

As you say, I'm sure at a dancing school with many restrictions on style and where all the girls know to look after their feet, the plainer version of those ones will be absolutely fine.

Many of the girls at our school still wear similar to those up to year 11 (geeky school).

Good luck! ( and if you try aren't it shouldn't auto correct!)

Sorry I'm not good at links t the best of times. We bought it from the doc marten shop in Covent Garden if that's any help. Dd is an H fitting with a high instep and a very square foot. She had it in about Y4 and again in Y7 and has small feet even now. She has often had a very plain, square toed traditional mary jane style from Start-rite - can't you just get that? She still wears it in Y10/11 without embarrassment and I'm pretty sure it starts at size 1. I do feel for you - it's hard with small dancer's feet. My mother was a ballerina - dd has the same feet but can't dance!!!

www.drfoot.co.uk/high%20arch.htm
when to wear insoles
my dd had them, she had intoeing though

Dd has had these similar but no hearts available in 1G

Doc Marten do a black Mary Jane style which is wide. Good fit and a bit of cred thrown in.

Slip on ballet shoes aren't allowed at our secondary. That's not to say some don't wear them but I won't get them for dds. They seem to always look slippy and sloppy and prone to coming off when I see girls in them.

I think op's shoes in the link are ok tbh.

Got dd some nice black brogues from Next.