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Secondary School for DD1,choice between one in Special Measures & one with a drug problem.

31 replies

Mirage · 21/06/2013 11:40

We have to decide on a state secondary school for DD1 this year and I'm getting really worried.The catchment school has always had a bad name,I went there and swore that I'd never inflict it on a child of mine.Classes were continually disrupted,things set on fire,if you were quiet or tried to work,you'd be bullied for being 'posh'.No one I knew went to university,I left at 16 just to get away from the place.

I've tried to put my bad experience aside and was gradually coming around to her having to go there,helped by the fact that it was rated good in it's most recent OFSTED inspection.However,last month it was inspected again and was classed as inadequate across the board and put into special measures.There were serious concerns about attainment,quality of teaching and pupils' behaviour.

The only other school locally is smaller,but has an equally bad reputation for behaviour and a serious drug problem.Parents are pulling their kids out left right and centre.If DD1 goes to this school,I will have to drop her off and pick her up every day,as there is no transport provided,which at least means that she won't be hanging about the place after school.She'll only just have turned 11 when she goes and is not at all street wise.

She wants to go where her friends are going,but a lot are going private if they can afford it.We can't,but could manage to pay for a tutor if need be.

My head is spinning,I really wanted better for my DDs and am gutted that the choice of schools is so bad. DH doesn't come from around here and doesn't know quite how poor they are.He seems unconcerned about it all.Sad

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LuvMyBoyz · 21/06/2013 14:40

School in Special Measures will be monitored and advice an d money put into it to improve it. All good for pupils. And, as has already been said, it may not even be all that bad. Go and visit both of them...the feeling you get from being in the schools should really help with the decision.

Talkinpeace · 21/06/2013 13:25

Is the SM school an Academy : if it is, worry. If it is LEA and there is no sponsor hovering in the wings, go for it, as it will turn around in a couple of terms.

School with drug problem. Do you have tangible evidence of this - like court records?
Just that all secondary schools have drug problems, especially affluent ones. But the drug kids and the bright kids tend not to overlap socially.

Mabelface · 21/06/2013 12:57

I think the goalposts with Ofsted have changed recently, so schools that were previously good have been marked down. As mentioned, when a school is in special measures, they'll be working very hard to get out of it, so I'd choose that one. My kids are in a school which was in special measures and has pulled itself up by the bootstraps and got itself a good rating. They're all doing well there.

Startail · 21/06/2013 12:42

SMs school, rather than one parents are pulling their DCs from.

They will come down on behaviour and attainment like a tin of bricks, to get out of SM.

Quality of teaching is very subjective and harder to fix as you can't recruit good teachers out of thin air.

What Ofsted see as bad teaching, old fashioned chalk and talk, DD1 likes. New fangled group work she hates.

Teachers get marked down for not differentiating, when they know certain DCs aren't going to join in, however good the lesson.

If a school sets and your DC is bright enough to get in the higher sets, chances are they will do OK, SM or no SM.

imnotmymum · 21/06/2013 12:28

Is there no other school???? In that position I would home school or move

Takver · 21/06/2013 12:28

That's crap :(

Do you know anyone with dc at the school that has been put into special measures?

FWIW a local school to here went into special measures recently - but I have friends with dc there and they're very happy with the school and how their children are progressing. I think the school is obviously failing some children, but it isn't a nasty place to be, IYKWIM.

Also, I'm sure others with more experience will be along, but I think going into special measures can often be quite a good thing in that money / resources will be put into the school?