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Can 'teach first' really be doing this?

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Cathpot · 16/06/2013 21:21

In our department at the moment is a very pleasant 21 year old who is on the teach first programme and doing some sort of research project for a week or so. She has a good degree and has signed up to the teach first programme to get into teaching. This summer she will get 6 weeks of training in how to teach, using I think at some point some summer school kids, then in September will be dropped into a difficult school (no choice of where to go) on a 2 year contract.

She is enthusiatic and bright and seems very keen and when I was talking to her I had to kept reminding myself not to look too shocked. She is going to stand up and teach her first proper class to her first proper group of probably very tricky teenagers on her first day in the job. This seems insane to me- how can this be working? How is this ok for her or the kids in her class? I am all for cutting down the college aspect of teacher training and getting students out into schools to work out how to do the job but it seem self evident that the PGCE year is essential to producing teachers who won't get eaten alive in tricky class rooms. She told me some schools have as many as 5 teachers from teach first at any one time and that if they dont stay on at the end of 2 years they just replace them with a new one. I can't really get past how insane this seems as an idea.

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Cathpot · 16/06/2013 22:04

Maybe teach first are picking their graduates better in terms of personality as the last two pgce students we have had through have not had a personality between them let alone one robust enough for teaching. I just kept thinking about how much I learnt in that year of training about the sort of teacher I wanted to be, what strategies worked for me, where the holes/ misconceptions were in my knowledge, and I am glad I had that time. I was still on a massive learning curve in my first couple of years but I was better than I would have been without the training.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 16/06/2013 22:00

As you were.

Arisbottle · 16/06/2013 21:58

I also don't expect thanks to be honest, just doing my job. Lots of other people could do it as well and a fair few could do it better.

ExitPursuedByABear · 16/06/2013 21:57

I said thankful. Not grateful.

Arisbottle · 16/06/2013 21:52

I am not sure that any child should be grateful that I turned up, smacks of the poor kids doffing their caps. However I think I do a good job.

ExitPursuedByABear · 16/06/2013 21:50

My friend's son is doing this. He is oxford educated, in a difficult school, and is a bloody natural. Any parent of a child in a difficult school should be thankful for the day he turned up to teach.

Arisbottle · 16/06/2013 21:47

Yes, am still a teacher.

Cathpot · 16/06/2013 21:44

Arisbottle- can I ask if you are still in teaching? Did you get any hands on teaching before you started work?

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Cathpot · 16/06/2013 21:40

Well at least that's positive Maureen, I like her and it just sounded like she was going to be thrown in to sink or swim. Also I think I am feeling over sensitive about our profession and how under valued it is at the moment.

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Arisbottle · 16/06/2013 21:38

I was a teach first teacher, I guess it depends on where you are placed. I felt my training was very good.

Cathpot · 16/06/2013 21:36

She also said she wanted to be a geography teacher but they wanted her to be an English teacher as she had an English A level. She said no to that so they have compromised on her being a science teacher. I think I was just staring gormlessly at her by this point.

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MaureenMLove · 16/06/2013 21:35

We've had several Teach First teachers over the last 5 years and every one of them have been very, very good.

They have so much training and mentoring over the course of their Teach First year too. They have 5 full 'subject days' and a two week placement at another school, plus several visits throughout the year from their external mentors, not to mention regular meetings with their internal mentors.

Everyone one of our Teach First teachers have stayed with us for their NQT year and are amongst the best of the teaching staff. It's not an easy school either.

I think Teach First is great.

AViewFromTheFridge · 16/06/2013 21:31

One of my friends did it 6/7 years ago and is now a very successful HOD. I think it's aimed at top graduates only and combines some business/ management training, too.

The scheme started in America and aims to narrow the gap - making sure deprived schools get really good teachers/ graduates.

mummytime · 16/06/2013 21:27

It has been going on for years. A friends DD is doing it, and seems to be enjoying it. However I'm not sure how it really works, or how good he teaching is at first.