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Any parents of Y12 DCs up for a support thread?

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cardibach · 26/04/2013 21:23

to get us through AS and university Open Days etc.?

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Kez100 · 23/06/2013 11:59

Thanks backtogood. Is that Bournemouth University, or Arts University Bournemouth? My daughter looked at AUB.

Her course is unusual in that, being Arts and impossibly competitive for real work, the students expect to need a huge amount of time working on lecture material in their own time. What matters with art is the access to equipment, industry links, opportunities, access to tutors for questions, tutorials - possibly very different than an academic degree.

Having chosen BTEC not A levels the self study is already embedded - during assignments, she usually spends 25+ hours a week on self study and practical work in addition to the 15 hours of her course.

The problem I am finding is, if they talk the talk - what happens if they are just good salesmen and those promises don't actually come to fruition?

secretscwirrels · 23/06/2013 11:04

Interesting point Cardibach. I think you are right. In some schools they seem to take a half way approach at A level, encouraging self study and research but others continue to spoon feed a la GCSE and that would leave them ill equipped for undergrad study.

DS was going to look at Bath but his friend went last week and hated it so he seems to have struck that off the list. That would have been an overnight trip as it's 4/5 hours each way. All of our DCs seem to be looking to go a long way from home. I think it may not be coincidence Wink.

cardibach · 23/06/2013 09:58

BackForGood I have some reservations about those complaints. In the 80s I didn't have more than 7 or 8 hours of lectures and seminars any week. And revision sessions? And I think that for many courses that is right. Undergraduate work should be about your own development, reading and independent study and thought. There should be some seminars and tutorials as well as lectures but low hours are not necessarily inappropriate. I wouldn't expect an undergraduate to need revision sessions organised by someone else and I wouldn't expect them o stop working because there were no lectures.
This is what happens when you charge directly - people expect to be passive and have everything done for them. It's a sad situation. Far more worrying than alleged spoon feeding and dumbing down in schools.

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BackforGood · 22/06/2013 23:21

Kez I was talking to someone last week who is at the end of her first year at Bournemouth. Absolutely loves the town and the student life there, as well, of course as the fact it's at the seaside but she's really disappointed (and her parents are horrified) at the poor quality of the course. Don't know how subject dependent it is, but she's only had 5 - 6 hours of lectures / contact time a week, and that's been in big lectures of 200ish students, with the lecturers just reading their powerpoint slides. Even more stunningly bad - IMO - is that she hasn't had a single lecture since March. She had exams at the end of the first year, and there were a couple of revision sessions - literally, two - and that's all that has been offered by the university for the whole of this term. Of course they've had to pay accommodation up until July and a whole year's fees.
As I say, I don't know how course dependant it is, but it might be worth asking some probing questions.

Kez100 · 22/06/2013 21:12

Cheltenham today and it currently lies top (has 250 applicants for 50 places :( ) bournemouth is second currently - that has a 15% offer rate. Falmouth is a non starter.

bruffin · 22/06/2013 21:02

thats a shame Cardibach.
Leeds was very good today. Ds liked everything about it, but its the first open day so might feel differently one hes seen a few more.
Thought yesterday was an open day but it was just some sort of lecture.

cardibach · 22/06/2013 20:46

Well, Liverpool is a strike. THey don't take the Welsh Bac (they're actually not allowed not to accept it, but they obviously think they are more important than everyone else Confused Angry
Still, she didn't like it as much as Coventry anyway!

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secretscwirrels · 22/06/2013 11:01

Well done CardibachDD Smile
DS went to Warwick yesterday and came home buzzing. He loved every bit of it and thinks it will be his 1st choice. Of course he hasn't been to any other open days yet.......
Durham on Monday and then he is going back to Warwick for a one day Maths thing.

cardibach · 22/06/2013 07:53

Glad to find you lot/your DCs are going to a lot of Open Days -none of DDs friends are. As she says, how can you decide what to out on your UCAS lost if you have never been? Lovely night's sleep in my executive bed Smile

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bruffin · 21/06/2013 22:40

Lucky you Cardi Grin

Ds went to Imperial today but went out partying and havent seen him yet. Have to be up at 5.30 to go to Leeds tomorrow.
Im going with him to Brunel on thursday, abd Dh tajing him to Nottingham and Durham on Friday/Sat

cardibach · 21/06/2013 22:28

In a hotel in Liverpool with DD for Open Day. We have had Thai for dinner and are now watching QI. Got upgraded to an executive room so living it up! :) hope it is a good day tomorrow - anyone else going?

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BeckAndCall · 21/06/2013 07:16

Oh, been away from this thread for a couple of days and missed saying well done to cardibach's DD!

It's certainly open day season for DD and all her friends. Big week coming up for various friends - Manchester tomorrow, Oxford mid week, Exeter last week and 800 mile round trips to Edinburgh last weekend!

For my DD, we had together decided London wasn't for her. Then she went to a taster day at Kings, and loved it! So rethinking the criteria for the list.....

PurplePotato · 20/06/2013 18:39

Snowy, my DS went to Bath today too. Hope you had a good day. He came back and said something along the lines of "yeah, looks alright". He's going to Birmingham tomorrow.

prettydaisies · 20/06/2013 18:00

And core 4 is finished!

Mundane school now, but not lessons - it seems to be lots of singing and dancing as well as a trip to Cerne.

Kez100 · 19/06/2013 21:19

That's one off the list!

Falmouth was an unlikely choice due to courses not being perfect but as its on our doorstep we thought it would be silly not to go to the open day and see. My daughter was right, the courses aren't for her, but its a wonderful campus and halls and we were both very impressed.

BackforGood · 18/06/2013 19:09

Well, that said, he's going to the University in our home City this week, with school.

BackforGood · 18/06/2013 19:08

Well done to Cardibach's dd.
No, we're not going anywhere until the Autumn... combination of the places ds wants to visit, the fact he didn't get his finger out very quickly, and the clash with other things that were already on the calendar once he did decide to make some decisions.

cardibach · 18/06/2013 18:50

:) Kez! Nothing terminal! Her plan is to be so bloody good as DHG that they realise they made the wrong decision! And she will come to terms with her disappointment anyway soon. We are having mash for tea (not on its own...) and that will cheer her up no end!
We are off to Liverpool on Friday for a Saturday Open Day - this will be DD's 3rd visit to somewhere in as many weeks. Anyone else going to be there?

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Kez100 · 18/06/2013 17:57

"She will sort that though".......Agggghhhhh, what's she gonna do to her? LOL!

Well done her on getting DHG!

We start hitting the Universities tomorrow - four (out of seven to visit) in the next week. One in July and the final two in September. Managing to get away with just one extra paid overnight stop. Kerrr ching!

cardibach · 18/06/2013 17:14

DD has just been appointed Deputy Head Girl! (Not eve slightly stealthy boast). She had to write a letter of application, there was a staff and student body vote on the applicants then a short list were interviewed by the Head, Deputy, Head of Sixth and a selection of staff. I am v proud but she is a bit gutted as she desperately wanted head girl. She will sort that though. I am having a quiet coffee to get over the trauma while she does her voluntary work.

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snowyowl70 · 15/06/2013 19:32

Legallady DD1 is doing French, German, English Lit and History at AS and doesn't want to drop anything in September as she loves all her courses. The course at Bath sounds great and a friend of ours did French and Russian there ( a few years ago !) and loved it . She also likes the languages and European studies at Southampton .

cardibach · 15/06/2013 18:50

Oh yes, BackForGood, we do ordinary here!
DD has reported via text that Coventry is fabulous and she loves it. That will be fine, as although it is 4 hours from me it is only 1 hour from her dad. We are going to Liverpool nest week (hotel Friday night) and York in August (two nights B and B). When she goes to Derby in September she will go with her dad from his house. Cardiff is a day trip from here but not booked yet as they only release one Open Day at a time and they have all bee week days so far (can't afford to lose a day's pay really).

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legallady · 15/06/2013 17:23

Fingers crossed for your DD Snowy - hopefully the German wasn't as bad as she thought. My DD wants to do French/Spanish but only doing French at AS (having dropped Spanish after gcse.) She didn't think this would be problematic but Bath, for example, requires you to have both languages at A2 if you want to do French and Spanish Sad. Typically you can't do Spanish as a beginner language. She may have to go down the French/Italian route if she loves Bath enough and it does look fantastic.......

Is your DD doing both languages to A2? I do feel a bit bad as we advised DD to not do two languages at AS as we thought it would restrict her options for university - shows what we know Blush

snowyowl70 · 14/06/2013 20:37

Legallady you are right about it being expensive !! Already been to Cardiff requiring over night stay - away 2 nights this week and will have to stop over night in Southampton - only Birmingham is possible from South Yorkshire !! Well Warwick is but doing that on way back from Bath !

snowyowl70 · 14/06/2013 20:34

Legallady we are going to Birmingham and Southampton in September ! May see you in Warwick then !! DD1 wants to study French/German but was really upset after her German speaking AS exam as she went to pieces after doing a brilliant mock exam ! She is now convinced all the places she is looking at will be beyond her reach but predicted 4 As so think she will be ok ! But results day will tell !