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Worried about Private school

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CountingClouds · 02/02/2013 13:23

My DC has passed the entrance exams, and been offered a scholarship, for a very good private secondary. What worries me is that the head has expressed concerns that 'we' night not fit in to their environment.

DC is in year six and predicted a strong level six in Maths and Literacy. Wide ranging extra curricular interests with friends also planning to attend the school. Local state Primary has always said DC has strong personality but well behaved, polite and a wonderful pupil etc.

I can only guess at the subtext behind the heads comments, single parent, working class, don't socialist within the local wealthy cliques, can't afford skiing holidays, asking awkward questions at the information events, challenging the schools opinion, DC having extra needs etc etc.

So the place we are offered is conditional on us accepting their ideology of being seen and not heard, that we don't rock the boat and DC's personality being supplanted by the tried and tested Stepford children conditioning (I paraphrase the heads words).

I want the best education for my DC but is it worth sacrificing his amazing individual personality, and possibly extinguish what I think makes him heads and shoulders above his peers? The alternative is a strong state school, good social inclusion, will meet DC's extra needs, good academic record, well regarded locally but maybe not so established nationally so might not look as good on his CV as a private school.

Ten years ago I always dreamt of a private school and have remortgaged in-case DC didn't get a scholarship, but not the time has come to decide. Am I mad to pass up the chance of sending my DC to a private school because its full of stuck up snobs?

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diabolo · 02/02/2013 16:38

All white upper middle class families?

Really? In an independent school?

The mystery deepens as even here in rural East Anglia (something like 95% white British population), there are far more children from different ethnic backgrounds at DS's prep school than there are at the state school where I work!

JustGiveMeFiveMinutes · 02/02/2013 16:37

Which large city CountingClouds?

tiggytape · 02/02/2013 16:37

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AuntieStella · 02/02/2013 16:35

I cannot believe a school will offer a scholarship to a pupil they do not think will fit in.

Honestyisbest · 02/02/2013 16:34

hmmmm

CountingClouds · 02/02/2013 16:30

Letter was from the Private school Head. A reference was taken from primary head but they have never expressed any concerns over anything to me about DC and I have asked. Also they aren't keen to express an opinion that doesn't support the LEA.

Its a small private school in a very exclusive wealthy area of a large city. My DC has visited the school several times, has friends there. There is no one from a minority group or SEN students, its 100% white upper middle class, mostly families in second of third generation attendance.

Yes MrsHelsBels74, head did write, "I have concerns that xxxxxxx would not fit in to the xxxxxx xxxxxx school environment". And its a DS.

I was not posting to have a go about any school or person, it is purely about what is best for my DC, certainly wasnt wanting to create a storm. He is happy to go with whatever I choose, I don't think he has a strong preference.

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diabolo · 02/02/2013 16:29

Apologies if this is true OP, but I simply don't believe it.

If it is true then you are incredibly silly to even be considering "fitting in". I know several private schools, ranging from small non-selective preps to large, expensive selective secondaries and I have never come across anything like this, simply because there are all types at those schools. Relatively poor families with DC's on bursaries, lords and earls, many single parents and "old" money families and everything in-between. These types of people aren't mutually exclusive you know?

I think you've made this up to try to start a bunfight.

givemeaclue · 02/02/2013 16:15

...are you going to fit in at any school though, with your ideas about how brilliant your son is comparable to peer group, "billionaire playboy?". Etc

Home ed?

JugglingFromHereToThere · 02/02/2013 15:59

I think the opening post had a couple of "his" in there but I agree it's odd she didn't go with DS or DD throughout if she was talking about a real person

MrsHelsBels74 · 02/02/2013 15:56

I'm also confused as to whether you have DS or DD. I thought DD but then you started talking about billionaire playboys.

Am I missing a reference to binned cake eating?

dorapeppageorgenoddy · 02/02/2013 15:53

What are your current school saying about the offer?

Have you visited the school?

What does your child want to do?

Is this for 11+ entry or 13+?

Any clues on area or school would e fascinated to know, also sorry to ask again is the letter from the new head or has your current head written the letter/given you his/her thoughts - cause that makes a difference?

MrsHelsBels74 · 02/02/2013 15:52

I can't believe a head would actually write 'you probably won't fit in' hence asking for the actual words. Confused

difficultpickle · 02/02/2013 15:50

CountingClouds not sure if your comments are directed at me or others on this thread. Fwiw until ds went to private school I'd never even visited. State educated all the way so choosing private was rather a leap in the dark and not what I knew. However circumstances forced the issue (need for wraparound care and let down by CM).

However one thing is certain it doesn't matter how much money I have or don't have or what job I do, no one is better than me. If anyone tries to make me feel like they are better then it says more about them than it ever does about me.

If a head said to me that my ds had to conform in a particular way I would run fast and run far. Your ds will be spending up to 5 years there (assuming you are looking at age 13) and it is a long time to be miserable.

CountingClouds · 02/02/2013 15:47

Thank you dorapeppageorgenoddy for your thoughtful comments.

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dorapeppageorgenoddy · 02/02/2013 15:43

Is the letter from the new school or your current school Head? If its from the current head I would book an appointment to see the Head of the school that offered the scholarship?

Regardless of the badly worded letter - To offer a scholarship they obviously see potential in your child, it would be worth meeting the potential Head, words on paper can be read wrong/standard issue/ etc only back the school, take the offer if you believe in it, feel it is approachable and the right thing for your child.

Like many posters have said a lot of parents at independent schools are just normal people with the normal mix of divorced, separated etc etc but the common bond for most is they have chosen the school and for many chosen to sacrifice money for a few years to send their child there.

The bit about trips and ski trips etc is quite standard there will be amazing trips offered during your child's time there sometimes skiing or to crazy far away places for a lot of money, there are things to buy cricket equipment, uniforms etc all not cheap - but if thr trips are essential say geog field trip there are usually bursaries to support children that can't go and there is usually more than one or two families that ask for a bursary.

With uniform etc all independent schools I know have fantastic well stocked second hand uniform shops with absolutely no snobbery about using them.

The most important thing is that you are confident with the school and feel you could have a relationship with the Head or it is a huge school Head of year etc -

If you don't want to meet the head you could ask to meet head if Year 7 or similar and just talk it all through -

Independent education is not everything for everyone but for some Children it can open opportunities to learning and allow them to thrive academically - but a tough choice for you and your child to make, last thing to consider is the alternative schools what are they like etc?

TotallyBS · 02/02/2013 15:39

Grin at the OP and her DC.

If this isn't a 'joke' thread - you sound like you are sooo full of yourself and thinks that the sun shines out of your DC's arse.

And the mystery deepens as to why the head is concerned that your DC may not fit in.

pippop1 · 02/02/2013 15:37

I don't believe a Headteacher would so daft as to write these things down on paper and send them to a parent.

I can (just about) believe that they might say them to you, over the phone but not that they would write them, knowing that they could be shown as evidence in some future dispute or to other future parents.

Unless there is something extra that you are not telling us OP.....

CountingClouds · 02/02/2013 15:36

Thank you very much for all the comments.

I probably had my decision made already but having a few other opinions helped me bring it together. Not wanting to to put my DC in for loads of entrance exams I put to many eggs in one basket. I am going to look at my second choice private school, which I felt was more inclusive but as it was single sex put me off. Luckily I am happy with the state option so not worried if we don't get in.

Having read the comments I think those inside a certain environment don't really understand what its like to look on from the outside and really just prefer to live in ignorance (that's perfectly understandable). However I know I just don't want my DC to be like that no matter what.

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JugglingFromHereToThere · 02/02/2013 15:36

I can't believe what the head is saying to you ! What a cheek Shock

They'll be very lucky to have your bright and lovely DS.

I would accept the place, and carry on regardless in your own and your son's particular idiosynchratic ways - which is surely much more in the spirit of English public schools anyway - unless it's one of those very common minor public schools where everyone has to conform in a terribly suburban way Wink

difficultpickle · 02/02/2013 15:26

Just seen your latest post. My ds questions everything and has a vocab and way of talking way beyond his years which can sound very pretentious unless you know him and realise that is just how he is. As I've said, none of it has caused any problems at all. For good or bad though, ds is the sort of child that knows everyone in school and everyone knows him.

difficultpickle · 02/02/2013 15:23

Forgot to add I'm a single parent, ds has no contact with his father, and that is an issue at all. Nor is the fact that there is no way I could afford full fees.

difficultpickle · 02/02/2013 15:22

I was expecting when you pay for school that it would be more caring, more focused on individual needs, not this.

Then don't send your ds there. My ds is at a prep school on a large scholarship. He has a 'strong' personality but that was part of why he got his scholarship (plus his talent of course). I would be horrified if any head said to me that ds had to confirm and be a conditioned to be a particular way. My experience of 5 years of private school is ds is encouraged to be an individual, even if being an individual to the extent he is can prove quite challenging to some of his teachers (who all said at parents' evening what a lovely boy he is).

So far I have spoken to one senior school who said that they would expect ds to have a lively personality (because of his scholarship) and how enriching it would be to have him at their school.

I would love to know which senior school as I can't imagine a head of a good senior school speaking in those terms and would find it very depressing to meet someone who did.

JustGiveMeFiveMinutes · 02/02/2013 15:22

Where is the school, and initials OP because I don't believe a word of what you say

BooksandaCuppa · 02/02/2013 15:22

What???

AuntieStella · 02/02/2013 15:22

A DC who has been awarded a scholarship is also likely to have been offered ordinary places at other schools applied for. I do know families who have turned down scholarships or the more known/prestigious school because they feel their DC would be a better fit elsewhere.

That is why I think OP should consider other offers, as I cannot on the basis of these posts see her being happy with this one, nor with it having influence on her DC.

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