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Moving from the US to the UK

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MJIG · 04/01/2013 14:59

We will be moving to the London from the US with our daughter who will be starting year 11 in September. Can anyone offer advice on state schools? I understand that she would be entering a school in the middle of the GCSE years so I am looking for information on what type of school would help her assimilate best into the UK system. We would like her to move on to the IB diploma.

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Hesa · 30/08/2018 00:04

Thx all for the replies & suggestions:)

lljkk · 22/08/2018 20:51

@Hesa, you should start your own thread, folk will get mixed up here talking to someone who last posted in 2018.

There are study guides that cover all the GCSE material, it's doable but lots of studying. They expect you to know specific quotes for literature test.

ksb76 · 22/08/2018 19:09

Worth considering a few private schools offer year 11 entry to overseas students - a reduced number of GCSE's to sit, and preparation for either A levels or IB. I know Sidcot definitely do. Kingham Hill also offer an accredited US High School Diploma if transferring system is not what you want.

Needmoresleep · 22/08/2018 18:23

If you will be in London it would be worth looking at taking GCSEs in a year at somewhere like Asbourne, MPW or DLD. The cost will be less than £30,000. Normally fees are comparable with London private day schools. They may advise a smaller number of subjects, though we knew a boy who got 11 top grades despite coming from a very different education system in a different language.

If you have two years, you should be able to find a place in a less selective private school (Portland Place?) or at state options.

ReservoirDogs · 22/08/2018 15:47

Almost impossible if she is going straight into year 11 as they are taught over a two year period (and sometimes three) unless you go to one of the private crammer type colleges at £30k a year. Even then they will probably limit the number you can take.

It will probably be better to start a new thread than to resurrect ZOMBIE threads!

Hesa · 22/08/2018 15:08

Dears, an old valuable thread. Help needed please, appreciate your input on a year 11 taking her GCSEs coming from the American curriculum?

Copthallresident · 11/01/2013 14:26

mummytime I would never say never. DDs' school does have strong discipline and a uniform but a group of "strong characters" (for which read insecure attention seekers) with really terrible back stories subverted the norms in DD2s year. They could have turned up at any school. The question really is whether the school were right to stick with them and try to help them, the school is the only source of stability in their lives, leaving the rest of the year to put up with their disruptive and bitchy behaviour, and taking the hit to their reputation , rather than asking them to leave expelling them They just lost a quarter of the year to other sixth forms because they chose the former. The irony is the school has a, actually undeserved, reputation for poor pastoral care.

Spalva · 11/01/2013 10:55

Lancelottie -- Aww, Friends looks like such a nice school. We loved the girl sith short hair on the homepage! So cute! And so rare! (my dd is growing hers out)

Tingalingle · 11/01/2013 10:32

Yes, I think a rule that says 'clean, comfortable, covered' (as DS's sixth form does) is fair enough.

Bonsoir · 11/01/2013 09:59

I don't personally think that uniform is here or there - what matters is whether pupils are held to reasonable standards of self-presentation. All my DCs go to schools where there is not a uniform. DD's school has a dress code (basically a colour code - plain navy/white/grey but you can wear what you want - no micro shorts or strappy tops or tracksuits however) and the DSSs has nothing but the DCs may not wear faded jeans or clothes with holes in them or reveal flesh etc.

mummytime · 11/01/2013 09:56

Well my experience has been all schools in my town have Blazer and tie Uniforms. Some are very strict on skirt length, how ties are tied, trousers hicked up - they have better behaviour; than the ones with pants showing, miniscule skirts, ties loosely tied. The school with a new head where Uniform has smartened up also has improving behaviour.

I think it is one sign of: self-respect of pupils, and if the school "sweats the small stuff". But I would also happily send my children to at least a couple of schools (not local) which have no uniform.

Lancelottie · 11/01/2013 09:29

I'm guessing you're looking at scholarships to the CI school based at GA, or Friends at SW? Both welcoming and nurturing, according to friends' children.

Lancelottie · 11/01/2013 09:27

beg to differ about the uniform though! DS's old school was very blazer-and-tie. His new one is (faded) sweatshirts and random skirt and trouser styles, with some wildly hairy kids of both sexes, but it's friendly.

Lancelottie · 11/01/2013 09:25

Oh Spalva, DS's old school tried to imply that the troubles he was experiencing would be the same anywhere. They weren't. He moved and has been fine since.

Meanness and bullying should not be the norm at a school.

mummytime · 11/01/2013 09:13

I can say there would be no bullying by "raccoon-faced, orange-skinned girls with their skirts hiked up" at my kids State school in Surrey. Its a school which takes bullying and uniform both very seriously (whatever the arguments about Uniform, if a school has it then how seriously it takes it seems to correlate strongly with behaviour in a lot of other areas).

Spalva - I really hope you find the right school for your DD soon. I can say having worked in schools that it is very surprising how different schools with similar in-takes and similar results can be. Do ask lots of awkward questions about pastoral issues.

Spalva · 11/01/2013 08:18

I didn't think it wasn't something she would encounter anywhere -- precisely why we're both worried moving schools won't help anything.

Copthallresident · 10/01/2013 18:46

BTW Spalva In response to your point "And please don't allow her to be bullied by raccoon-faced, orange-skinned girls with their skirts hiked up." More or less what happened to DD2 at one of the top 10 selective independent day schools in the country in leafy Surrey, one with lots of girls from different cultures. Sadly it is a sub culture they can encounter wherever they go.

Spalva · 10/01/2013 16:14

Oh thanks Lancelottie. It's much more complicated than that, unfortunately. But things are starting to turn for the better and we are looking to move to Herts/Cambs from Essex if a certain scholarship goes through for a certain school that has a place for dd. That's after I convince dh that, actually, we're no longer moving to Welwyn Garden City, which has been the plan for the past month.

Lancelottie · 10/01/2013 15:53

Spalva (in response to your hijack), stick her in Sawston VC while you wait for an International School place, if you're anywhere near Cambridge (as I'm guessing from your other thread).

Honestly. if there are problems, they care. They try to fix them. They don't tell you your child 'needs to try harder to fit in'.

You might loathe it (though I doubt it) or you just might accept that English schools are generally a bit crap at languages, breathe a huge sigh of relief, and cancel the other application...

Needmoresleep · 10/01/2013 08:54

In areas with grammars, pupils who did not get in at 11+ can apply again.

Depending on the area and provision there can be a lot of movement for sixth form, so your daughter would be entering with lots of others.

Some state schools offer IB for sixth form. There are some earlier threads that suggest IB pre-sixth form is rare.

piprabbit · 10/01/2013 00:11

A school sixth form is when the children stay on at their secondary school (or maybe transfer to another local secondary school) after their GCSEs for two years to do their A-levels, prior to going to uni. It may be very small and the subject choices may be limited.

A sixth form college is a separate, larger institution for studying A-leves etc. for ages 16-18. It often has much larger numbers of students and have a wider choice of subjects. Sometimes sixth form colleges are used for a wider range of vocational training and for maturer students as well as academic prep for uni.

Copthallresident · 09/01/2013 23:54

Amerryscot This thread is about one DCs need for a school place in year 11 because they are moving to the UK, I haven't seen any posts saying it is a huge demand. However OP is not unique, both returning British and overseas Expats do find themselves sometimes needing to move at times that are not ideal for their DCs schooling which is one reason why , if you look at the links I posted , private schools and colleges are offering one year Gcse courses. The posters here are suggesting possible options state and private for OP. I don't understand why you appear to be taking a swipe at them, and on what grounds? It doesn't appear very constructive or helpful?

webwiz · 09/01/2013 23:13

A school sixth form with usually be relatively small and will have a smaller choice of subjects but may have a more supportive atmosphere/better pastoral care.

Sixth form colleges are much bigger and will have an intake from a number of schools. There will normally be more choice of subjects with more emphasis of working independently.

We don't actually have any sixth form colleges where I live its all school sixth forms.

MJIG · 09/01/2013 23:06

What is the difference between a school 6th form vs 6th form college?

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Amerryscot · 09/01/2013 22:35

I don't really get the notion that there is a huge demand for UK state schools starting from Y11.

How many people on this thread actually know what they are talking about?